So is this any good for online gaming??

[Ethan_Hunt]

Also is the freeserver unmetered??
And do i have to pay BT for the time i am on my ISDN??

Sorry for all the questions, just want to know everything that i can before i use the service!!

 

[Yaz]

Depends upon your Freeserve account as to whether it's unmetered or not. I'm on their anytime and that's unmetered with a 2 hour kickoff. They're also pretty damn good about the hours you clock up as I used to batter it 24/7 before I got my satellite and they've never moaned once about it. That's 13-99 a month if I remember correctly.

This is only 64k though - if you want 128k you have to pay for calls on Freeserve as they don't have an unmetered 128k product yet (I think?). There are some other 128k isps out there but I think most have limits on hours per month. To be honest, you don't need 128k with your satellite as you're downloading via that, NOT the isdn line. The isdn is simply for sending acks and urls etc to the server or uploading data to ftps or Kazaa etc.

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

for the time being i am only going to have my ISDN, do your pings go up when you bond the channels together??

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

can you please tell me what distance you can be away from the exchange to be able to get ISDN??
Because BT are now saying that i am too far away!!
So i asked the women on the phone how far away you can be, and she said 4.6 - 4.8 km(i think) away, so that is shorter then Broadband??
I thought that the distance had got a lot further then that for ISDN??

 

[Jez978]

Its certainly longer than DSL, ISDN2e goes even further still...certainly not that short.

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Have you got any idea of how far ISDN2e does go, as they had some women on the phone that didn't know what she was going on about!!
I can't believe i got this close, i am in such a bad mood!!
I might try ringing them agian tomorrow, but in the mean time, if someone does know the distance that would be great, i can't find anything on the website, but how far away you can be!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

 

[Yaz]

Be careful - if they try and sell you Home Highway you need to be reasonably near to the exchange for some reason but for ISDN2e I didn't think that was a problem.

As for channels, I use 64k almost all the time. I only use 128k when I'm dialing into work over VPN so I get decent speeds for tenet etc.

 

[James B]

for idsn reach, im 6.2km as the cable goes (was 5.7km but mysteriously went up since november) and I failed HH and IDSN and ADSL. (dats y I have sat on an adsl exchange!) The HH range is 4.5km (with a 46Db loss maximum) according 2 a very knowledgeable BT services manager in the phone (knowledgeable + BT??? wow!) and IDSN varies and can go anywhere from 5.0km to 10.0km, depends on the line quality. todays bt engi told me that IDSN is more fussy than adsl over gain/cleaness of the line but with a clean line at 8km it would work, whereas ADSL would not. Im pinning my hopes on the supposed expansion of the Db limit to 60DBb, as I got 57.2Db in my last test.

james

 

[Jez978]

James, you will seriously find that if £50 or so makes its way into the engineers front pocket then your line will dramatically improve in quality I know several people who have dramatically improved the quality of their line in this way <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> they all now have perfectly functioning ADSL which uploads at around 29kB/s (the upload is what is cut when the quality goes down on RADSL)

 

[James B]

yeh, lol, gud idea. With the self install tho, how do you get an engineer to bribe? cos they are all at the exchange and you never see em?
how wud i get round this?

nice idea tho

james

 

[Jez978]

You will have to get a proper install for this to work m8

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Ok guys, seeing as i can't get ISDN, Cable, ADSL, i need to ask if anyone here has bonded 2 56k modem before??
Even if i can get connected at 64k that would be alot better for my online gaming, and then i will get satdrive for my downloads, as the speeds seem really good, and is a really good price!!
So any help would be great, or even any websites, on how to bond them together??

Thanks guys!

 

[James B]

oh rite, do u mean a engi install for adsl that costs £200? thought they had bin phased out? for the time being, sharing issues apart, satdrives very good, speeds of 300kb/sec tonight, ill stick with sat and hope i pass easily on the new 60db limit, tho my line is now 6.2km, mebbe ill pass neway, me hopes. If not, ill try to find an engi install. For idsn/hh when does the engi come jez, as when i applied, they said i failed, but no engi ever came round?

james

 

[Jez978]

With our ISDN2e my dad just told someone at his company to sort out an ISDN install for our house, about a week later a bloke knocked on the door out of the blue and installed it

For the bribe method you have to be marginal i think, if you failed straight off then theres no one to bribe. After the limit change deffo have another go as the low latency of DSL and the way you can max it out with anything single thread is great

 

[James B]

lucky u! my dad got his company 2 run an idsn 2e line in, a week later, bt called and said no chance matey with the limit change, i may well pass and if not it will be very marginal, so ill begin 2 save a bribe for him yep, adsl is even better than satdrive, and adsl + satdrive using channel bonding in the satdrive software = 1200k down/256k up, not half bad BTs site says 'we are optimistic we have overcome the problems of line gain loss, and will announce a solution in Jan 03' so heres hoping

 

[Elmer]

It's got nothing to do with bribing BT engineers <img border="0" alt="[Laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" />

With distances over ~5km, BT often install a "line amplifier" which boosts the quality of the speech signals. Unfortunately, these amplifiers are not broadband amplifiers, so broadband signals will not pass through them. Exactly where or when these amplifers are fitted are on an "as required" basis, and this is why you will never pin BT down on the maximum line length, because you could be at 5.5km from the exchange with no amplifier, or you could be at 5km from the exchange with one.