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While the story isnt exactly new, its been reported here a few times at least when you consider the digital side of the story.. however from what l gather from the article, the government has taken yet one more step towards stupidity.

it seems they have added the ability to spy on post as well.. they specifically say the same thing as they have done for digital communications in as much as the content of the communication wont be recorded but l assume where possible the originator and destination of the communications will be recorded, and in the case of post cards likely everything will be recorded (after all the destination is on the same page as the message).. l wonder how long it will be before our post is opened and read before we get to see it?

these powers go way too far, and considering the press releases.. well in essence they have just told every criminal and terrorist they are going to be watching digital and non-digital forms of communication, now wont that make it harder to catch them? after all you cant tap into conversations digitally without some sort of internet connection and you cannot log hand delivered letters..

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18477158
 
But a Home Office spokesman said only information relating to the "communications data of mail — who sent the letter to whom, when it was sent and the origin and destination" would, potentially, be stored.
Hmmm. To keep track of who sent letter to whom, they would have to make it compulsory for the sender's name and address to be put on the envelope, which many people won't like doing. I can see the postal service going bust pretty quickly if this lot actually becomes law.
 
makes you think tho.. the government arent content with just logging one aspect of our lives but pretty much every part of it be it while we are at home or the moment we leave our houses.. after all we are all criminals according to the need for such legislation.. if they wanted to catch terrorists and criminals they wouldnt have said a thing, now they all know they wont be conducting their dealings online or via post any more.

and because such legislation will now be a waste of money they will just use it to catch those of us who put a foot wrong rather than the real criminals just to make it look like things are working.
 
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It's good that they restricted access away from local authorities but I still don't see much need for the expanded laws and most of the examples given for why it's needed usually ignore how it will end up impacting everybody and not just criminals. Anyway we'll see how this goes as there will be 'some' debate before it's polished into law. The last IMP received some pretty stiff opposition.

I really think that if you truly believe in freedom then you have to accept that a little bit of bad goes with the majority of good. Putting an eye on everybody isn't the best answer.
 
"...they would have to make it compulsory for the sender's name and address to be put on the envelope, which many people won't like doing."

Oh, I don't mind that in the slightest!
...says he, grabbing the phone book and selecting a random name and address.
 
"...they would have to make it compulsory for the sender's name and address to be put on the envelope, which many people won't like doing."

Oh, I don't mind that in the slightest!
...says he, grabbing the phone book and selecting a random name and address.
:laugh:
 
Goes and posts letter with fictional middle east address on it the single sheet content reading "BOO GOTCHA"

That should be good for a 500 old bill manhunt LOL
 
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Yep because it's oh so difficult to fake information :).

This is a bit like Claire Perry's plan to introduce a mandatory age/ID verification system for online content. God knows how they'd make that work but you can be sure of one thing, it'll be easy to avoid with fake details or other measures.
 
Yep because it's oh so difficult to fake information :).

This is a bit like Claire Perry's plan to introduce a mandatory age/ID verification system for online content. God knows how they'd make that work but you can be sure of one thing, it'll be easy to avoid with fake details or other measures.

They would want us all to have a webcam and someone looking at the other end to guesstimate your age....... They and anyone narrow minded would/will think this is an instant way to guesstimate a persons age online, a few issues though........

1) Sales of fake beards to 10 year olds would increase 200% :D

2) By the time you get to 12 you will figure out its cheaper to save money on fake beards and film dad on your smartphone and then play that footage back in front of the webcam :D

Ah the government and their ability to understand technology once again eh? :D
 
The gov needs to realise that ISP's are not webhosts the sooner they realise this the better.

Any such device they install can be Attacked, Bypassed, Hacked...
 
When you look at all these things the govt. want to introduce it shows us just why the country is in the state it is.

We are governed by ignorant and ill read people that simply do not understand the basic functions of the technology in question.

Age restrictions .......... anyone that could actually invent a system for age limitations on any internet service would be an instant billionaire, fact is as we here know, it ain't going to happen.

The sheer hypocrisy of these ministers is truly amazing, they don't want Johnny and Suzy to see porn, yet these are the idiots that decided that all children at pre school should have full formal sex education ............ if you tell a kid about something are you actually surprised when they get curious?

Very young children are given smart phones and unrestricted internet usage, that is the issue that needs dealing with. Where are the parents , do they not have a responsibilty in this?
 
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actually more times than not lve found filters tend to be switched on by default on mobiles, that being said they arent exactly fit for purpose considering the ease of being able to get around them.

the problem however is parents think filters will block everything allowing them to treat the internet as a daycare.. far from it, if parents actually did their jobs properly they would be keeping their eyes on their children while online, however sadly from the top down most parents think its someone elses job to keep their children safe online.. it just shows how lazy their parenting skills are, what can we expect tho from the man at the top who leaves his children at pubs.. the legislation he keeps on bringing in shows his character.. aka devious and calculating (recent revelations really make that point considering he is going to be kicking out 1000s of under 25s from their homes not that it isnt already happening, l know at least two ppl having to move between friends houses because they either have no parents or their parents dont want them back home).
 
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