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Three 5G Home Broadband New Download Limit 120mbps

Mattyk66

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Three as they are refusing to admit they are throttling connections, yet multiple users have posted on the community site about this and stating they can now only hit 120mbps download when they used to hit much higher, these are different people in different parts of the country, being impacted exactly the same.

I live right next to the 5G mast in my area, literally 30meters away. When I first went with three 5G broadband in October 2022 and up until November 2023, I was hitting anything from 600 to 900mbps download, all the time, even peak hours, I still have all the results recorded on my Ookla speed test app/account on my mobile phone.

In November, Disney plus stopped loading on my TV stating I was out of region, nothing I did/changed could get it to load so contacted three to see what was going on, they advised they could fix the issue by making some changes to my account settings and to restart my router and try and open Disney Plus again on my TV. Sure enough Disney loaded after the they messed with the settings, but from that exact point on (14/11/23) my download speed is stuck at 120mbps, won't go any higher. It jumps sometimes to around 400mbps when the speed test initially starts and then immediately and dramatically drops down to 120mbps with a second or two and stays there, clearly this is throttling and limiting the download speed.

I contacted them on multiple occasions over the next few months and they were giving me all sorts of excuses and said they had changed settings and to try again, and another said they were working in the area but it would be back to normal in a month. I ran a speed test every week and nothing has changed, stuck on 120. I have had a month refunded and a month half price but all this time they are still claiming they do not limit the download speeds which is obviously absolute rubbish.

As someone else has mentioned on the community site, when I do a speed test on my phone when I am not connected to the Home broadband, and I'm also with three for my mobile contract, I still hit the usual 500mbps+ and nothing has changed with the speeds on my phone, just my broadband from November onwards.

At the time I googled and couldn't find any posts on this so thought it was just an issue in my area, but after a speed test earlier, stuck on my 120, I googled and found this. Now I know this is happening to others I am going to contact them again and keep up the fight! Since I originally posted this only a month or so ago I can see there are new posts popping up weekly from people experiencing the exact same issue, so it seems to me Three and rolling out this download throttling across the country now.

For those that want to leave three, due to the speed decreases, who are stuck in contract, they agreed with me that I could leave with no charges due to the change in service. When you first sign up, you get 14 days no quibble trial to see how it works and what speeds you get and you can send back if you not happy. So, if the speeds you are getting now, do not match the ones when you first got it, you can argue this and say you want to leave without a charge!

A further update to this - I made three send me out a brand new replacement router only 2 weeks ago at the start of Feb 24, so I could rule out that being an issue. I have a brand new replacement router (Zyxel NR5103), brand new sim card, and nothing changed. exactly the same and stuck at 120mbps. I have attached screenshots of speeds tests below and you can clearly see the moment they made the changes at their end on the 14/11/23, and from this point on my speed has been throttled to 120mbps, when the speed only 3 days before that was 544mbps. I have also added screenshots of speed tests from Feb 2023, compared to speed tests from Feb 2024 and the differences are striking. My speed used to vary, as non throttled speeds should, between 400mbps up to 900mbps depending on the time of day/load on the network, as you would expect. Now, my download speeds have no variation at all, 7pm on Saturday evening at peak times, 120mpbs, 3am on a Sunday at the quietest time possible, still 120mbps. If speeds were not being throttled there would be a variation to the speeds I could hit. When I do the same speed tests on the Three mobile network when not connected to the home broadband, I get much quicker speeds, as previously mentioned, and I get the expected variation depending on the time of day. As I am about to post this, at 1:15am on a Sunday, I have ran a speed test on the 5G Mobile network and just hit 656mbps download, and then the speed test when connected to my home broadband, 119mbps, five and a half times slower!! Admittedly the upload speed was the opposite way around hitting 30.3mbps on mobile and 63.3mbps on the home broadband, but this again just shows that the speeds are being controlled and throttled. And again, I have attached the screenshot of this test below.

I would like someone from Three technical support team to respond and finally admit that they are throttling speeds on the home broadband now, may be they are doing this as the network is getting busier as more people have joined over the last 12 months, but they need to admit this and stop the lies.



Speed Test Results showing change in speeds on 14/11/23 immediately after Three changed the settings their end -

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Three Home Broadband Speed Test Results Feb 23

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Three Home Broadband Speed Test Results Jan/Feb 24

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Speed Test Comparison Three Mobile 5G to Three Home Broadband 5G

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Hi Matty, I saw your post on ocuk forums, but thought I'd reply here.

I've seen the same thing on my Three 5G home broadband, but it seemed they turned it on for me after I was experiencing disconnections when maxing out the connection, such as downloading game updates, etc (see thread here).

I was offered money off at various times, but haven't taken them up on anything. I may look to cancel now though as I've just had fibre installed.

Some of the more knowledgable people on these forums may be able to advise regarding changing APN on the router to see if that resolves it (I tried this, but it didn't have an effect).
 
Hi Gareth - Thanks for your reply. I have been posting everywhere I can to spread the word and cause a nuisance, they still advertise their broadband as 'No speed limits. No data caps. Just endless streaming, browsing, and sharing in the UK' So, I am going to report them to Ofcom as well. Interestingly I ran some tests which I posted on the Overclockers site but I will post here as well for others to read -

As I am with Three for Broadband and mobile, I thought I would do some tests today and swap the sim cards over, and the results are not what I was expecting!

Test 1 -
Broadband Sim Card in Phone - I removed the sim card from the router, and put it into my phone, ran a speed test and guess what, I’m hitting normal speeds with my 5G Broadband Sim in my phone, I ran 2 speed tests, the first at my desk, still hitting 354mbps, and the 2nd I stood at the window where my router is and hit 740mbps download! So, the problem doesn’t appear to be with the sim card itself and there is no limit when using in my phone.

Test 2 -
Phone Sim Card in Router – I removed the Three sim card from my phone and put it into the router to see if the issue is with the router. Speed Tests 576mbps & 617mbps. So, the problem does not appear to be the router directly.

Test 3 -
Broadband Sim back into Router – Now, I was really hoping that things might have just sorted themselves out and gone back to normal after my swapping sim exercise, but I was wrong. Speed test with the Broadband Sim back into the router = 118mbps & 119mbps, back to being limited again.

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There is clearly something that has been set at Three's end to limit the download speed of the broadband account when the sim card is in the router, but it only limits it when it is in the router!

I have passed all this information on to Three who said they are going to look into it.......
 
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This isn't an IPv6 thing is it? Have you tried forcing the APN to three.co.uk on the router or telling it to connect using IPv4?
 
I am experiencing similar but not to the extreme of 120mbps.

My phone on 5G using Three gets a download speed of 1100mbps!! But my 5G router with its broadband sim seems to cap at 400mbps.

I am using the three.co.uk APN with IPv4 only enabled as 3internet would stop certain devices and apps from working.

Now i don't really want contact three about it as it seems to get reduced when people reach out for support.

I am happy with a 400Mbps for the price and Three must have their reason for it. If its to ensure everyone receives a decent speed and avoids congestion in the area I am all for it.

When purchased it was advertised as average speed of 150Mbps and I would choose to have a stable 150Mbps than a constant up and down connection and suffers with congestion, personally.

Maybe its part of this https://www.three.co.uk/support/network-and-coverage/about-trafficsense
 
My phone on 5G using Three gets a download speed of 1100mbps!! But my 5G router with its broadband sim seems to cap at 400mbps.

I am happy with a 400Mbps for the price and Three must have their reason for it. If its to ensure everyone receives a decent speed and avoids congestion in the area I am all for it.
Those broadband router results are on a hard wired connection I assume? Some phones are able to connect to 5G at a higher bandwidth than some routers though the disparity between 1.1Gbps and 400Mbps seems extreme. Router signal stats would be a good place to start.
 
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I would try the broadband sim in phone but using the 3internet APN.

Would also be interesting to see if things change on if around the billing date.
 
Those broadband router results are on a hard wired connection I assume? Some phones are able to connect to 5G at a higher bandwidth than some routers though the disparity between 1.1Gbps and 400Mbps seems extreme. Router signal stats would be a good place to start.
It’s the latest NR5103EV2 hub and here are the stats. This is the same hard wired but my iPhone 15 connected using WiFi 6 should obtain higher speeds than 400mb anyway regardless.


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I'm leaving three because it went from 700 mbit down to 50 and sometimes even less. Changing APNs or routers did nothing for me. I complained to three and they immediately blamed my router. Which is obviously wrong and of course they can't explain if it's my router then why did it used to do 700mbit? Coupled with the fact it kept going offline its just not the service I want. It's cheap, yes but to me I would rather pay more for a more reliable connection. It's a great shame really because I was singing their praises before but not now. Oddly if I drive to a mast at a Tesco supermarket just 2 miles down the road my phone easily hits over 1gbit on either APN. But I'm tired of three denying there are any issues and blaming my kit. I'm off to O2 for my backup isp now.
 
Throttling Tests & Resolution with APN Change

Hi All – I spoke again to technical team on 21/02/24, who were useless like usual, who passed me through to the complaints team again as they said they could not work out why my connection was maxing out at 120mbps and why it had changed and were still adamant they don’t limit or throttle connections! I’m being more convinced now that the technicians truly believe the connections aren’t being throttled, but there is something going on higher up above them doing this, that they have no control over!

Anyway, after I had finished with the complaints team, I did a little more digging around and went into to the router settings to check the APN Access Point Name) which there are many posts about and has been mentioned on here. The APN was set to automatic and was ‘3internet’. On reading up it seems ‘3internet’ is the standard one used for broadband. I changed to manual rather than automatic APN and used ‘three.co.uk’ instead, and then did a speed test and 584mbps!! After all this, for me all that was needed changing was the APN, and I should have checked this earlier as other posts suggested.

I tried the following APN’s and all of them worked without a download limit apart from the ‘3internet’ one which is clearly being throttled-

3internet – 120mbps
three.co.uk – 543mbps
3broadband.ie – 567mbps
3ireland.ie – 532mbps
open.internet – 578mbps

So frustrating that no one from the Technical know this or could have suggested changing the APN and even more frustrating that everyone from Three are still adamant there are no speed limits and they don’t throttle – it’s obvious they do, and even more so from the further testing I did below!

Before I realised that it was just the APN that needed changing, I said to the complaints team the only thing left is to cancel my current contract and start a new contact with a brand-new sim card to see if that fixes the issue, as it has done for others, to which they agreed. This is the only plus point I have out of this whole charade as I was going to be paying full price for the next 8 months and I now have a new contract, 6 months half price, and I also ordered via TopCashBack and have already had the £102 cashback confirmed, will be payable in a few months!

So, I ordered a new contract, and a brand-new router and sim card were delivered the day after, so I started testing! My current or old router as such is the Zyxel NR5103e, and the new router they sent me was the updated version of this Zyxel NR5103eV2. I will call them V1 and V2 moving forward.

So first off, I tried a speed test with the new router (V2) and new sim card, and on checking the APN was automatically set as ‘3internet’. Speed test was pretty normal with a very high upload speed 472dowload/110upload. I then put my old sim card into the V2 and ran the same test and the results were just as with the V1 – 119download/61.9upload!! I replicated these tests using my old router (V1) and had similar results with the speeds being unlimited on my new card, and limited to 120 download on the old card when accessing via the ‘3internet’ APN.. If this isn’t clear evidence that Three are throttling connections on certain accounts I don’t know what is?? Three has clearly throttled my old account when using the APN ‘3internet’ but my new card hasn’t been throttled, YET, so I can get varied and what appears to be unlimited speeds. When I use any of the other APN’s on either sim card the results are all similar with no throttling.

As an additional test, I put the broadband sims in my mobile, and changed the APN from three.co.uk, which is the standard for mobile devices to ‘3internet’ and the results were identical to above. Old sim card throttled to 120mbps, new sim card no limit!

I am collated all of the information and speed tests I have and will reporting this to Ofcom next week as Three are still advertising their 5G with no speeds limits, which clearly, for many people, is not true!

NR5103e VS NR5103eV2 Testing

Whilst I had the opportunity, I went deeper into testing the two routers to see which one I wanted to keep for my new contract. The new router is much smaller which is a plus point, it is also worryingly much lighter, does that speak for the quality of the components?

I placed each router in the exact same space on my windowsill where I get the best signal. It didn’t take long to notice that the NR5103e (V1) had a better and much more stable signal than the newer NR5103eV2 (V2). I will refer to them as V1 & V2 moving from now on.

The V1 would be at a constant 87-89 RSRP, 15 SINR, 2/3 RSRQ and it would always be on a continual 5G connection, rarely dropping to 4G.

In comparison the newer V2 was so temperamental with the signal. It would generally stick at around 93RSRP but occasionally dip to 88 at random, then up to 96 and moving around all over. SINR 13, RSRQ was worse at 11. But what was really noticeable was the constant jumping between 5G, 4G+ and 4G. There was rarely a moment when I was looking at the signal where it was on 5G constantly and would change every 30 seconds or so and would dance about between them all, which can’t be great for a reliable connection surely?

The speed tests were actually ok for both. The download speed was noticeably quicker on the V1 which regularly would hit 200mbps higher than the V2, this could simply be down to the fact the signal was more reliable. But to put in perspective, even the lowest download on the V2 was still 300mpbs. The highest on V2 was 575, highest on V1 was 860mbps! One thing where the V2 did sometimes shine though was the upload speed. At times the upload speed would be 90-110mbps on the V2 where as the V1 could only manage 75-85mbps. The V1 was a constant upload speed though with no dips, whereas the V2 dropped as low as 60 sometimes. All I can think of here is the V2 is better at handling uploads compared to the V1, so when it has a strong, constant signal, it will achieve a higher upload speed. Either way 60 being the lowest recorded upload speed, it still incredibly quick and more than enough!

Overall, either router would probably work fine for most people, although this depends on your signal and how close you are to the mast. As I have mentioned in previous posts, I am very lucky, that although I don’t have clear line of sight to the mast and there are a couple of houses in the way, it’s almost irrelevant as I am approx. 50m away from it. For me, the extra 20mbps that I sometimes get on upload with the V2, is negligible in comparison to the constant reliable signal that the V1 gets, and the extra download speeds it regularly achieves over the V2 are more useful. There have been a number of posts backing up my findings on the V2 that the signal is all over the place and not reliable and drops out, and for that reason, I am sticking with the trusty V1 for my new 24-month contract.

I hope you find my post useful!
 
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This is some good info. I watched a few reviews on youtube last year and no one mentioned throttling but it is good to know that small print Terms and Conditions are alive and well :ROFLMAO:
 
I have a 5103Ev2 and find it is very picky about placement - direction in particular. I can turn it maybe 22.5 degrees in a different direction and get wildly different speeds. Once in an optimum position, it can degrade a few days later and need repositioning (weather?). This is on the same cell ID each time. I'm at the edge of reception to the nearest cell and there are quite a few low-level buildings in between. It makes me think the antenna in the v2 isn't very omnidirectional though.
 
This is some good info. I watched a few reviews on youtube last year and no one mentioned throttling but it is good to know that small print Terms and Conditions are alive and well :ROFLMAO:
Things can change from one year to another, even more frequently.
Three had a plethora of tech issues and I wouldn't be surprised if what we are seeing are a consequence of that that they're just hush-hush about.
 
Things can change from one year to another, even more frequently.
This is the best description for mobile networks UK I can think of. Years ago, I would laugh at O2. Now in my specific case, in my home, they're second fastest (after EE). Where three would have knocked the socks off any network. It's a huge shame for me. Did a test this morning, which only confirmed I made the right decision to stop using them after many years. I will keep trying, in the hope that one day they improve again but i'm not holding my breath. The main problem I have is their complete denial of everything.

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This is the best description for mobile networks UK I can think of. Years ago, I would laugh at O2. Now in my specific case, in my home, they're second fastest (after EE). Where three would have knocked the socks off any network. It's a huge shame for me. Did a test this morning, which only confirmed I made the right decision to stop using them after many years. I will keep trying, in the hope that one day they improve again but i'm not holding my breath. The main problem I have is their complete denial of everything.

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That's on par with my 56k AOL dial up from the noughties. lol
 
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Can confirm that there's no 120mbps speed limit at all. It's likely a limitation of the area you're in. Currently getting around 160mbps. Tends to be higher very early in the morning when fewer users, around 200mbps then.


 
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Can confirm that there's no 120mbps speed limit at all. It's likely a limitation of the area you're in.

I do get variable speed test results but I never see any hint of a 120Mbps limit so nothing implemented here either. Speed test in my sig was done this morning, the best I've had.
 
Throttling Tests & Resolution with APN Change

Hi All – I spoke again to technical team on 21/02/24, who were useless like usual, who passed me through to the complaints team again as they said they could not work out why my connection was maxing out at 120mbps and why it had changed and were still adamant they don’t limit or throttle connections! I’m being more convinced now that the technicians truly believe the connections aren’t being throttled, but there is something going on higher up above them doing this, that they have no control over!

Anyway, after I had finished with the complaints team, I did a little more digging around and went into to the router settings to check the APN Access Point Name) which there are many posts about and has been mentioned on here. The APN was set to automatic and was ‘3internet’. On reading up it seems ‘3internet’ is the standard one used for broadband. I changed to manual rather than automatic APN and used ‘three.co.uk’ instead, and then did a speed test and 584mbps!! After all this, for me all that was needed changing was the APN, and I should have checked this earlier as other posts suggested.

I tried the following APN’s and all of them worked without a download limit apart from the ‘3internet’ one which is clearly being throttled-

3internet – 120mbps
three.co.uk – 543mbps
3broadband.ie – 567mbps
3ireland.ie – 532mbps
open.internet – 578mbps

So frustrating that no one from the Technical know this or could have suggested changing the APN and even more frustrating that everyone from Three are still adamant there are no speed limits and they don’t throttle – it’s obvious they do, and even more so from the further testing I did below!

Before I realised that it was just the APN that needed changing, I said to the complaints team the only thing left is to cancel my current contract and start a new contact with a brand-new sim card to see if that fixes the issue, as it has done for others, to which they agreed. This is the only plus point I have out of this whole charade as I was going to be paying full price for the next 8 months and I now have a new contract, 6 months half price, and I also ordered via TopCashBack and have already had the £102 cashback confirmed, will be payable in a few months!

So, I ordered a new contract, and a brand-new router and sim card were delivered the day after, so I started testing! My current or old router as such is the Zyxel NR5103e, and the new router they sent me was the updated version of this Zyxel NR5103eV2. I will call them V1 and V2 moving forward.

So first off, I tried a speed test with the new router (V2) and new sim card, and on checking the APN was automatically set as ‘3internet’. Speed test was pretty normal with a very high upload speed 472dowload/110upload. I then put my old sim card into the V2 and ran the same test and the results were just as with the V1 – 119download/61.9upload!! I replicated these tests using my old router (V1) and had similar results with the speeds being unlimited on my new card, and limited to 120 download on the old card when accessing via the ‘3internet’ APN.. If this isn’t clear evidence that Three are throttling connections on certain accounts I don’t know what is?? Three has clearly throttled my old account when using the APN ‘3internet’ but my new card hasn’t been throttled, YET, so I can get varied and what appears to be unlimited speeds. When I use any of the other APN’s on either sim card the results are all similar with no throttling.

As an additional test, I put the broadband sims in my mobile, and changed the APN from three.co.uk, which is the standard for mobile devices to ‘3internet’ and the results were identical to above. Old sim card throttled to 120mbps, new sim card no limit!

I am collated all of the information and speed tests I have and will reporting this to Ofcom next week as Three are still advertising their 5G with no speeds limits, which clearly, for many people, is not true!

NR5103e VS NR5103eV2 Testing

Whilst I had the opportunity, I went deeper into testing the two routers to see which one I wanted to keep for my new contract. The new router is much smaller which is a plus point, it is also worryingly much lighter, does that speak for the quality of the components?

I placed each router in the exact same space on my windowsill where I get the best signal. It didn’t take long to notice that the NR5103e (V1) had a better and much more stable signal than the newer NR5103eV2 (V2). I will refer to them as V1 & V2 moving from now on.

The V1 would be at a constant 87-89 RSRP, 15 SINR, 2/3 RSRQ and it would always be on a continual 5G connection, rarely dropping to 4G.

In comparison the newer V2 was so temperamental with the signal. It would generally stick at around 93RSRP but occasionally dip to 88 at random, then up to 96 and moving around all over. SINR 13, RSRQ was worse at 11. But what was really noticeable was the constant jumping between 5G, 4G+ and 4G. There was rarely a moment when I was looking at the signal where it was on 5G constantly and would change every 30 seconds or so and would dance about between them all, which can’t be great for a reliable connection surely?

The speed tests were actually ok for both. The download speed was noticeably quicker on the V1 which regularly would hit 200mbps higher than the V2, this could simply be down to the fact the signal was more reliable. But to put in perspective, even the lowest download on the V2 was still 300mpbs. The highest on V2 was 575, highest on V1 was 860mbps! One thing where the V2 did sometimes shine though was the upload speed. At times the upload speed would be 90-110mbps on the V2 where as the V1 could only manage 75-85mbps. The V1 was a constant upload speed though with no dips, whereas the V2 dropped as low as 60 sometimes. All I can think of here is the V2 is better at handling uploads compared to the V1, so when it has a strong, constant signal, it will achieve a higher upload speed. Either way 60 being the lowest recorded upload speed, it still incredibly quick and more than enough!

Overall, either router would probably work fine for most people, although this depends on your signal and how close you are to the mast. As I have mentioned in previous posts, I am very lucky, that although I don’t have clear line of sight to the mast and there are a couple of houses in the way, it’s almost irrelevant as I am approx. 50m away from it. For me, the extra 20mbps that I sometimes get on upload with the V2, is negligible in comparison to the constant reliable signal that the V1 gets, and the extra download speeds it regularly achieves over the V2 are more useful. There have been a number of posts backing up my findings on the V2 that the signal is all over the place and not reliable and drops out, and for that reason, I am sticking with the trusty V1 for my new 24-month contract.

I hope you find my post useful!
Glad you found a resolution. The APN change didn't resolve my issue, unfortunately (and trying the SIM in my phone yielded the same results).

My speed seemed to be limited after I contacted Three about frequent disconnections when maximising the connection, download speeds dropped to around 125Mbps and didn't budge, but the disconnections did at least stop. I was told there were issues with the cell tower in the area and there was no ETA for a fix.
 
It's the nature of mobile I suppose. I was one of those people who would tell others that I get decent speeds when they told me three was rubbish etc. If you see any thread about three on say hotukdeals or reddit, it's just complaint after complaint. Rarely you see a post like I might have made showing a very decent service. But even now, I've suffered from the nature of mobile. It changes. Sometimes for the better, but usually the opposite.

I had actually wondered if that "LTE breathing" was at play. But I don't know, and I don't have the energy to find out any more. I'll just go with whatever works. But there's no way three doesn't know what's happening at each site and what the experience is like. It just irks me I suppose, when they say no it's not us, it's you.

Interestingly, I tried EE (via Lyca) just now. And while better than three, it can't even hit 100mbit on 5G so maybe there's a problem at my local mast (it's a shared MBNL three/EE one) but this has also been going on for months now on my end.
 
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