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Using 2 x 2x2 mimo Bluespot Antenna`s on Three 5G Hub (NR5103E)

jason19885

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Hi so I've got an NR5103E coming later today from three along with a 2x2 mimo Bluespot Antenna I've also ordered another Bluespot Antenna that I'm going to keep inside the other will be outside, my question is, is this going to help with the signal or do I really need one 4x4 Antenna, if so which one would you recommend, thanks.
 
On that Router you need external 4x4 MiMo Antennas (Full Band 700 to 3800), my choice would be 2 Lots of 2x2 MiMo spaced apart and as high as possible as the External Switching on the Router disables the Internal Antennas (although technically it doesn't).

Having a External MiMo Antenna inside is technically a waste or effort as your going to lose so much signal loss on the Coax Cable length of the External Antenna which you would normally make up the difference in height and pointing the Antenna in the right direction.
 
On that Router you need external 4x4 MiMo Antennas (Full Band 700 to 3800), my choice would be 2 Lots of 2x2 MiMo spaced apart and as high as possible as the External Switching on the Router disables the Internal Antennas (although technically it doesn't).

Having a External MiMo Antenna inside is technically a waste or effort as your going to lose so much signal loss on the Coax Cable length of the External Antenna which you would normally make up the difference in height and pointing the Antenna in the right direction.
In my case, would you say it's better to use one external 2x2 Antenna
over one outside and the other inside
 
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In my case, would you say it's better to use one external 2x2 Antenna
over one outside and the other inside
No, as I tried to explain previously, unless your window view is really high up and has line of sight access to your Mast, you will lose more Signal loss in the Feeder Cable length compared to the actual Routers internal Antennas, especially at the higher Frequency Bands, get the External Antennas outside and as high as possible.

As said, my preference if your dealing with two lots of 2x2 Mino Antennas is to space them as far as part as possible in order to get some difference in the receivable signal(s), especially if your trying to match the Routers 4 Ports, or are trying to achieve 4x4 Mimo, or possibly a mix and mash of 4G and 5G bands (if your dealing with the 5G n78 Band get that one as high as possible)
 
Bluespots are pants and too expensive.
They simply don't deliver the performance you'd expect for their price. For half the price they might be acceptable but they're just rebadged Chinese imports.

2x A-XPOL-0002-V2 would serve better.
 
one alternative would be to use the QuWireless 4x4 MIMO antenna - it works across LTE and NR:


I tried one a while back and the signal gain was pretty good - even with 10m of coax cable. It was on a par with a Huawei 5G antenna (using 5m coax) and much better than the XPOL-0002-V2. One word of caution though - the unit is big and heavy so needs decent pole to mount it on. I used a 1.5" diameter pole from Toolstation:

 
one alternative would be to use the QuWireless 4x4 MIMO antenna - it works across LTE and NR:


I tried one a while back and the signal gain was pretty good - even with 10m of coax cable. It was on a par with a Huawei 5G antenna (using 5m coax) and much better than the XPOL-0002-V2. One word of caution though - the unit is big and heavy so needs decent pole to mount it on. I used a 1.5" diameter pole from Toolstation:

Are these suitable for N1 NSA? Officially it seems they aren't? We have loads of masts with N1 around us.
 
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one alternative would be to use the QuWireless 4x4 MIMO antenna - it works across LTE and NR:


I tried one a while back and the signal gain was pretty good - even with 10m of coax cable. It was on a par with a Huawei 5G antenna (using 5m coax) and much better than the XPOL-0002-V2. One word of caution though - the unit is big and heavy so needs decent pole to mount it on. I used a 1.5" diameter pole from Toolstation:

I really like the look of this - nearly bought one myself.

My only gripe though was no B32 support.
 
Are these suitable for N1 NSA? Officially it seems they aren't? We have loads of masts with N1 around us.
I think the NR bands are named such that they match the LTE numbers. Hence that page writes 1 instead of B1 and N1. Can't recall the reference at the moment.
 
Hi so I've got an NR5103E coming later today from three along with a 2x2 mimo Bluespot Antenna I've also ordered another Bluespot Antenna that I'm going to keep inside the other will be outside, my question is, is this going to help with the signal or do I really need one 4x4 Antenna, if so which one would you recommend, thanks.
Is the coverage/signal in your area known to be bad for your service provider when checking on https://cellmapper.net ?

If you cannot get a connection without an external antenna but do get a connection with an external antenna, that's an infinite improvement and the best bang for buck. The better your internal antennas already perform, the less you are likely to get from adding a first external antenna and then a second external antenna.

I would recommend to first get the best location for the router using the internal antennas so you have a firm understanding of the best SINR, RSRP, and RSRQ (other users may recommend other parameters to track) you can get using just the internal antennas before adding an external antenna.

If your external mounting position is very good, it's likely no internal location can help. If your external mounting location is very bad or on the wrong side of the property, it's possible an internal location on the correct side of the property (fewer obstacles) would be worth checking.
 
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I think the NR bands are named such that they match the LTE numbers. Hence that page writes 1 instead of B1 and N1. Can't recall the reference at the moment.
Correct, LTE (4G) Bands are dominated wit the Capital Letter "B" in front of them, current 5G Bands are referred to as a non Capital "n" in front of them, the small "n" donates the NR Bands (NR meaning New Radio, another name for 5G compared to 4G within LTE), the Bands as you say are identical within the actual frequencies, But, note, the original Max Bandwidths (as in the width of the frequency Band to its centre frequency) for each 4G Bxx Band and NR nXX Band will probably differ and increase or decrease over the original 4G LTE Bands over time and into the future, especially with a lot of the Band Re Farming potentially going on.
 
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