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Why 5G Sucks (Video)

I had already watched this. I subscribe to this guys channel and quite honestly I think he hasn’t done enough testing and research. He barely speaks about the benefits that 5G is offering currently instead of banging on about what was promised.

I noted he was standing next to a phase 8 monopole for a lot of his video and he speaks about not being able to get any more than 7mbit/s too. I genuinely wonder which mobile network he was testing and whether he tested 5G in more than one location and on more than one mobile network.

He’s speaking about paying £30 per month for unlimited data which leads me to believe he’s probably on Vodafone’s unlimited max plan maybe EE.

I like this guys videos but this is a huge miss for him in my opinion. He talks about problems we don’t have with 5G in this country.

He’s not seeing what we see on this forum. We have loads of different threads talking about how well the 5G networks are devoloping in this country and we see widespread improvements on all 4 major networks. Some more than others.
Totally agree with this .
 
in order of difficulty to configure:
tp-link er605
edgerouter x
mikrotik
So it seems meritez.

I put a question on the Amazon site for the tp-link and the answer came back telling me about USB connection 'at the front'. There is no USB on the front of either the Huawei of the er605. Not a good start.

So much to learn!
 
As a newcomer to the world of mobile broadband I am staggered at how my download speeds vary from six in the morning to six in the evening. This is not a resilient service I fear we may be seeing it at its hay day!
In my opinion, resilience is not the same as consistency.

It could be argued that mobile based technologies are actually more resilient than a fixed line, in that if your 'primary' connection is unavailable, there is likely to be another site that can provide a service. However the consistency of the throughput over time, and also when compared to different sites will be variable - people move around and their demands upon the network vary over time and place.

I liken it to running a train service - at peak times passengers will perhaps be crammed into the carriages, but at non-peak they'll probably get a nice seat. Where a rail operator can run more trains at peak times to prevent leaving people on the platform when demand is over capacity, network providers don't really have such an option so the per-device throughput drops, which, while it might not satisfy you dropping so low, providing its 'just enough' to satisfy the majority of customers (to prevent them from complaining/leaving the network i.e. maintain revenue) then the provider will be satisfied.

Will it be better when power-savings are more widely rolled out and they turn off bands overnight - that'll lower the night time per-device throughput making the difference between peak and off-peak throughput speed less?
 
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Gavin,

"that'll lower the night time per-device throughput making the difference between peak and off-peak throughput speed less?"

Certainly lowering the peak will reduce the difference, but I am not sure how it helps you and me.

We had a conversation a few weekends ago precipitated by someone bragging just how many terrabytes he/she had up/down loaded. What is odd that 100 gb is the usual threshold before one subscribes to "unlimited data". Yet the difference between 1tb and 2tb is equivalent to ten 100gb subscribers. I seem to remember the 'bragger' was claiming 38tb so that's the equivalent of 380 subs at 100gb. Surely the providers are going to police and penalise those really heavy users?
 
This guy's testing 5G from Vodafone. All his phones show vodafone in the past videos, and this would also tie into him paying "£30 a month for a max speed plan". I'm going to be a Karen and pull him up on this. Vodafones 5G also seems very similar to the results hes getting. Had full Lebara 5G the other day and pulled about 6 meg.
I’m going to consider sending him an email and explain why I think his video is flawed if I can find an email address to mail him on.

His videos are usually super informative and helpful. He has great videos talking about phone battery life.
 
See everyone is saying Vodafone, however he refers to the network on coverage and when he calls customer services and a UK call centre answers (assuming it was a real segment) makes me think EE..

Regardless I think the state of 5G is pretty poor all round..
 
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Certainly lowering the peak will reduce the difference, but I am not sure how it helps you and me.
That's kind of my point regarding resilience/consistency - as I understand it, for you 'good' resilience is a low differences between peak and non-peak speeds (which is what the power saving will/does bring), rather than what I consider resilience (maintaining any connection at all, regardless of throughput).

As for the policing and penalising of heavy users - its really up to the networks to follow their policies on that. If they choose to not take action, or are oblivious to it (they're probably not oblivious, they'll have KPIs for the sites with the highest data flows and how many devices are connected to them at any one time to get data-per-device information, before they even dig into data by individual account).
 
See everyone is saying Vodafone, however he refers to the network on coverage and when he calls customer services and a UK call centre answers (assuming it was a real segment) makes me think EE..

Regardless I think the state of 5G is pretty poor all round..
Possibly EE, I have seen very poor 5G speeds from them where they upgrade older 4G sites but standing next to a newer live EE/3 pole like shown in the video will not draw only 5mbps. Maybe he wasn’t even connected to the provider who owns that pole. Wonder if we can find out because if it’s a 3 pole and he showed UK customer service in the video then we know for sure that he wasn’t connected to it
 
Possibly EE, I have seen very poor 5G speeds from them where they upgrade older 4G sites but standing next to a newer live EE/3 pole like shown in the video will not draw only 5mbps. Maybe he wasn’t even connected to the provider who owns that pole. Wonder if we can find out because if it’s a 3 pole and he showed UK customer service in the video then we know for sure that he wasn’t connected to it
No red there so if anything looks like an EE logo there in the topnright
 

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So it’s a 3 Mast and we can confirm he showed UK customer service in the video. He wasn’t even connected to the mast he was stood next to. That mast probably pushes 500Mbps+

He was picking up, probably, some low signal EE 5G explaining his low speed.
 

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Just sharing a Mrwhosetheboss video about his 5G thoughts with you for your perusal folks.

The video is just under 10 minutes, so grab a cuppa and a couple of biccies.

Just thought it would be interesting to hear someone elses opinion of the current state of 5G.

Please feel free to say if you agree with what he's saying or not.

I think when 'proper' stand alone 5G arrives, we'll get on much better with it. :unsure:

That's all for now folks.:giggle:
Painful video to watch.

I think he’s taken a lot of largely anecdotal experiences on one of the worst networks for 5G and taken issue with the technology itself. He seemed to get quite hung up on mmWave too, which I found strange considering that most current deployments don’t feature it prominently. Sub-6ghz 5G is still much faster than 4G no matter what way you twist it.
 
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