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Why Does Only 3 Have Signal In My House?

jmngonline

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My current provider 3 gives 5g n78 and 4g inside my house. I get an average of 1 to 3 bars on band 3/1 and sometimes 4 bars when it occasionally gets stuck on band 20. EE which uses 1,3,7,20 on the same mast shows much lower signals where it goes 0 bars in the back of the house (all of kitchen and dining room and upstairs back bedrooms) where 3 gets at least one bar band 3 lte-a and 2/3bars band 20 lte-a . EE does give 2 bars max when standing at the wall at the front of the house whilst inside when 3 gets 3 bars band 1/3 n78 full signal band 20 lte-a. If anyone can give me a reason how it is possible that 3 gives a higher signal than EE even though they use the same mast.

Another thing is that even o2 and vodafone have as bad signal as EE if not even worse. Vodafone only has signal uptairs at front of the house where everywhere else is not no service but shows 0 bars just like EE has been doing they are all only capable of voice calling just no data even one no bars of signal. My house used to be 3g only on vodafone/o2 when I used to be with them. Now that that there is no 3g vodafone signal is now dead inside the house with o2 going next year leaving 3 with the only decent signal option. Thats another reason why they shouldn't merge unless they use 3 signals rathers than vodafones no bar borderline useless signal.

I have manage to do signal comparision with dual sim 3 vodafone on netmonster. I dont have one for EE and o2.

Here are the screenshots showing the signal results at the kitchen and dining room (top) with the upstairs front bedroom (bottom)., thanks.

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It might be the same situation im in.
Only Threes B20 reaches the kitchen in my house, all other networks have No Service 0 bars. It’s simply because of where the mast is and the bands it’s broadcasting on.
 
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Could it be due to line of sight, and how electromagnetic waves propagate (e.g. reflect and diffract)?

Does https://cellmapper.net give a clue as to how terrain is impacting the propagation of signals?

Considering EE and Three are both broadcasting from the same mast, it's certainly a bit strange, I don't think it's anything to do with line of sight when OP can get n78 from Three yet struggles to get B20 on EE from the same mast.

Looking at the 0/6/71 sector, it looks there's a decent density of masts (e.g. there's a mast 1-2km north of the mast they're connected to on Three).
 
Considering EE and Three are both broadcasting from the same mast, it's certainly a bit strange, I don't think it's anything to do with line of sight when OP can get n78 from Three yet struggles to get B20 on EE from the same mast.

Looking at the 0/6/71 sector, it looks there's a decent density of masts (e.g. there's a mast 1-2km north of the mast they're connected to on Three).
O2 and Vodafone also seems to share the same site they're getting Three signal from although the power on B20 on both of them are probably lower.

I wonder whether it's just the houses construction, since there seems to be a few masts around.
 
O2 and Vodafone also seems to share the same site they're getting Three signal from although the power on B20 on both of them are probably lower.

I wonder whether it's just the houses construction, since there seems to be a few masts around.

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Both of those locations have two masts each, the Toothill one has a smaller cornersrone one and the taller DAB one where mbnl hosts from. The botley road one has one for mbnl which is covered behind tree brances leaving only good coverage if you are right at the location where cornersrone has one that sticks right out the branches so it can provide more coverage.
 
It might be the same situation im in.
Only Threes B20 reaches the kitchen in my house, all other networks have No Service 0 bars. It’s simply because of where the mast is and the bands it’s broadcasting on.
Same as my friend's house in Tranent, you can only get a signal in one of the two bedrooms upstairs and that's just barely. Outside was just about manageable.
 
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If anyone can give me a reason how it is possible that 3 gives a higher signal than EE even though they use the same mast.
Perhaps it's because Three UK and EE share that particular mast but have different equipment (e.g. antennas) on the mast, and their equipment might be differently configured on both a hardware (e.g. antennas at different heights and pointed in different directions) and software level.

If you start with the assumption that two service providers sharing the same mast should result in the same signal everywhere within range (i.e. same radiation pattern), it is indeed confusing. If you remove this assumption and think about the world as it actually is, it can be less confusing.

Even assuming there is very high overlap between the radiation pattern for both Three UK and EE antennas on that mast, there is selection bias in that a person living in the overlap will not make a forum post to say there is a discrepancy, but instead, it's more likely for a person living on the edge of the Three UK radiation pattern but a little outside of the EE radiation pattern, to be impacted more by obstructions, to make such a post.

There is a correspondence for people who work in IT that everything seems broken as it's predominantly the broken cases which are raised to such support workers, and, furthermore, it's the extremes of brokenness which is seen (as these are harder for users to fix).

As a first start, I would compare the distribution of red dots and green dots on Cellmapper for Three UK and EE to see if there's any reasonableness in believing the radiation patterns from that mast are the same for both networks. You might just have better line of sight to a Three UK antenna on the mast than the best EE antenna on the same mast.
 
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Considering EE and Three are both broadcasting from the same mast, it's certainly a bit strange, I don't think it's anything to do with line of sight when OP can get n78 from Three yet struggles to get B20 on EE from the same mast.

Looking at the 0/6/71 sector, it looks there's a decent density of masts (e.g. there's a mast 1-2km north of the mast they're connected to on Three).
EE seems to struggle with indoor 4G, or it provides signal but very little in the way of bandwidth...
 
EE seems to struggle with indoor 4G, or it provides signal but very little in the way of bandwidth...
I struggle a bit here personally but the mast is like 7x the distance of the nearest Cornerstone one and EE doesn't have B20 deployed here, so in a way, it's not that bad
 
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