There has been plenty of discussion about this over the past couple of years, but still no news. Do we think it will ever happen?
Err. Access to 15m households that can receive VM compared to current 5 million on Openreach. Sky having a deal with BT to wholesale BT Sports, doesn't affect any possible new relationship with VM to use their infrastructureCan't see it, Sky has a long standing relationship with BT to provide broadband and it also has BT's own channels on its TV packages, so I can't fathom why Sky would ever get into bed with Virgin Media.
Can’t see sky buying an already merged company.... I know it happened with the BT/EE partnership with EE beings formed from the TMO/Orange PCS partnership but BT is a HUGE company compared to sky and I just cant see the Comms regulator allowing it if I’m honest.Well if Sky bought out Liberty global, maybe......
Who mentioned buying? VM is owned by Liberty Global Media, they are looking to open up their cable network in the UK to other ISP's, as a direct competitor to Openreach.Can’t see sky buying an already merged company.... I know it happened with the BT/EE partnership with EE beings formed from the TMO/Orange PCS partnership but BT is a HUGE company compared to sky and I just cant see the Comms regulator allowing it if I’m honest.
not necessarily. My understanding is that Sky will be the anchor customer, it may open up to other ISP's in the future. Don't forget Sky wholesale lots of channels to VM. Deal to be done hereIf Sky's considering this, then surely VM are considering going wholesale, so other ISP's should be able to effectively offer VM services in the same way as they offer BT's "pretend fibre" product.
^^^This. A bit like why some major ISPs -Vodafone, Talktalk, Zen - are also using Cityfibre based FTTP (where available) in addition to Openreach based services. Who knows, we might even see BT Retail using Cityfibre FTTP network one dayThis is the way the market is going now, Openreach will no longer be the only major player in town at wholesale. VMO2 are almost certain to go wholesale, but to do that seriously they'd need to launch with the support of more than just their own ISP (VM).
Sky have a number of options but may not want to saddle themselves with the technical complexity and associated cost. Having an agreement with another GPON provider would mean their processes would be very similar and they can have common kit (Sky Router/SkyQ/Mini - 5GHz Airties Mesh).
If they went with VM then VM would have to provide a low cost cable modem or an Ethernet interfaced ONT (on external wall) with FTTP.
Sky may find its easier to have Sky TV sell through options with ISPs that are using Altnet FTTP networks.
One of the biggest issues is VM speed consistency on legacy. It may be better on FTTP but on legacy my personal experience is that VM fail their own product minimums on a regular basis, particularly at peak times.