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XP Academic and OEM licences

Mel

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I was thinking about getting XP pro - probably an OEM edition because of the outrageous cost of the retail version, but I also really need to upgrade this PC in the near future (as in throw away everything but the floppy and perhaps the case because it's about 5 years old!). I know it is against Microsoft licencing rules, but I've also read that they are probably in breach of UK consumer regulations.

So has anyone tried activating an OEM edition on a new PC after removing it from a previous computer, or should I wait until I've bought new hardware?


Also does anyone know if there is a minimum number of hours a part time teacher has to work to qualify for an academic XP upgrade ( http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?product_uid=65802 ) - I thought I'd previously read there was, but http://www.microsoft.com/uk/education/how-to-buy/who-can-buy/default.aspx doesn't mention it, and only seems to cover MS office.

My dad works one day a week as a tutor at an adult education college, so I wonder if he'd qualify.
 
I was lead to believe that aslong as he works in the education then he qualifies Iw ill see if I can find out anymore details.

Edited to add according to Microsoft you cannot transfer the oem license.

9. Can I transfer my operating system license from an old PC to a new one?
ANSWER. Not unless it was purchased as a Full-Packaged Product from a retail store (i.e.,
Windows in a box). Current OEM licenses for all Microsoft operating system products are not
transferable from one machine to another. The End User License Agreement (EULA) governs the
terms for transfer of licenses. Some EULAs for copies of certain older OEM operating system
products (i.e., MS-DOS®, Windows® 3.1, and Windows for Workgroups 3.1) distributed in 1995 or
earlier may permit transfer of the OEM operating system software license under limited
circumstances. (See Software Product Transfer section of your End User License Agreement.)
10. If I “retire” a PC with an OEM license on it, can I use that software on a new PC?
ANSWER. No. To put it simply, OEM product is “married” to the original PC on which it was
installed. Current OEM licenses are not transferable from one machine to another. The software
cannot be moved from PC to PC, even if the original PC it was installed on is no longer in use. This
is true for all OEM software – operating systems and applications.
11. If I upgrade some of my PC components, do I have to purchase a new operating system?
ANSWER. The answer depends on the components that are upgraded or changed in the PC. The
operating system licenses must remain with the device that retains the motherboard, chipsets,
and chassis that include the serial number of the device. The operating system may be installed
on a new/replacement hard drive as long as the operating system is first removed from the old
hard drive.
Please refer to the section on “Modifications to hardware and how they affect the activation status
of Windows XP” in the following link for a more detailed explanation regarding specific hardware
changes. The same hardware component changes that can be made to a PC before requiring reactivation
of Windows XP are the same changes that can be made before a PC is considered to be
“new” - and when a new license for OEM software is required.
http://microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/windowsproductactivationtechnicalmarketbulletin.
doc
 
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Thanks Kits.



Here's one of the articles I've read about MS licences.

In Europe, subsequent sale of computer programs is governed by the 1991 Computer Software Directive, the relevant text of which is:

The first sale in the Community of a copy of a program by the rightholder or with his consent shall exhaust the distribution right within the Community of that copy, with the exception of the right to control further rental of the program or a copy thereof. (Article 4 (c))
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/05/08/selling_oem_windows_copies_you/
 
Windows XP Home with SP2 OEM (Single)
[N09-01152] £53.00 Exc
£62.28 Inc £52.75 Exc
£61.98 Inc


OEM Microsoft products can only be sold (a) for refurbishing of PCs (b) to System Builders (c) additional services for Branded PCs or (d) to Sub-Distributors.

General:
Package Type OEM (Disk + Licence only)
Language(s) English
Version XP home with SP2
Pack Contents CD Media, Quickstart guide, Certificate of Authenticity with keycode & Licence
Software:
Distribution Media CD-ROM
License Pricing Standard
License Type Full Version
License Qty 1 User

Windows XP Home Edition gives you the freedom to experience more than you ever thought possible with your computer and the Internet. This is the operating system home users have been waiting for—because it offers serious stability, soyou can have serious fun.

Please note : Windows XP (Home & Professional) DOES NOT come with Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access etc. These applications form part of the Microsoft Office Suite. Click Here to see further details of Office Suites available.

Important Information :

OEM packages CANNOT be used to upgrade existing Windows environments. They must be installed as a new, clean operating system.
OEM product is not supported by Microsoft. Technical support is only available via the public forums, newsgroups or Microsoft chargable incident based support.
 
I have done it, and it works, but that was a while ago. They may be more vigilant now.

One possible solution, is a program called win key. As well as getting the key from windows (I had to reinstall it on someones computer, but they had lost the sticker with key on) and office, it can back up an activation.

So backup an activation, save it to floppy disk or USB key, and when you have installed windows on your new machine, restore it.

I havent had the chance to try it yet, so dont know if it works, but its possible that it wont like the hardware changes. Still, if its a fresh install of windows, you dont have much to lose.

I have the program if you cant find it.
 
I guess it will pay me to wait until I've upgraded - I'm just getting increasing sick of 98se (I never liked it in the first place)

I think I have win key. As I understand it, the thing you have to back up is a sort of encrypted hash which is based on the major hardware components so it wouldn't work, the motherboard is for a slot A Athlon and the graphics card is a geforce DDR 1 :o so I won't be keeping any of it.


I've read (no idea if it is true) that if you bought a PC with a pre-activated XP installed, the key is different to the product key on the sticky label (something similar to a volume licencing key) and by using that key you could avoid activation if you have to do a clean install on the same hardware.
 
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I've had XP on my main PC, swapped it to a Laptop as I was working away for many months and then swapped it back again without any complaints from MS when I told them why it needed re-registering, the last only a few months ago, however if they dont want to play ball then get hold of one of the freeware unlock programs, I certainly will cos I get fed up having to re-register every time I flash a DVD drive etc.
 
Mel said:
I guess it will pay me to wait until I've upgraded - I'm just getting increasing sick of 98se (I never liked it in the first place) ...

That's old ! Why do you still use 98SE ? :confused:
 
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Bob2002 said:
That's old ! Why do you still use 98SE ? :confused:

Well, it came with the computer :laugh: I got it just before ME came out. Actually, I'm far too tight to pay for the retail version of XP and I was reluctant to donate my money to Microsoft in exchange for an OS where I'd need MS's consent to use it if I replace or modify the computer. Also the motherboard bios was supposed to be incompatible with XP, but I've recently tested that.


I have got reinstalling 98 down to about 10 - 15 minutes (so I don't have to waste my time fixing it any more - well not that often) - it would be quicker than that, but of couse there's always the latest new critical updates to add then I need to update the image on my drive image cd.
 
ip said:
Always Linux or Bittorrent.............

One of these days I will install Linux, but I'm still going to need a copy of windows.

Bob2002 said:
The world's favourite OS - Windows XP Pro Corporate Edition ... :laugh:


Actually, I did think about that, although just to avoid activation, I'd buy a legitimate copy of xp as well ;)

I'd always be a bit concered when internet shopping and banking if I could trust my OS. I also understand that at least some Corp ISOs retain some security flaws because MS included anti-piracy measures with a fix.
 
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