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Persimmon Homes Seeks to Boost Own UK FTTP Broadband Rollout

Friday, June 14th, 2019 (11:26 am) - Score 7,619
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Property developer Persimmon Homes, which says they’ve had “difficulty” ensuring that other telecoms providers deliver broadband to their new build UK housing developments before purchasers move in, looks set to ramp up the rollout of their own Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) based “ultrafast broadband” ISP network.

Until recently Persimmon predominantly deployed broadband and phone services by working alongside existing telecoms operators, such as Openreach (BT), Virgin Media and Open Fibre Networks Limited (OFNL). However, as above, this hasn’t always worked out quite as planned and the recent spat with BT over £7.2m of allegedly unpaid bills certainly won’t have helped (here).

Instead we note that Persimmon has been busy building their own closed “full fibre” networks under the FibreNest ISP sub-brand, which tends to offer unlimited usage packages from 10Mbps (1Mbps upload) for £13 per month (plus £60 setup) and this goes all the way up to their top tier of 500Mbps (50Mbps upload) for just £45 per month.

Admittedly not everybody has been happy to find themselves locked into a single ISP but the service is well priced and we’ve been seeing more of their deployments cropping up over the past year. Similarly Persimmon has now made an application for Code Powers from Ofcom, which is often sought by infrastructure builders so as to help simplify and speed-up their rollouts (i.e. reducing the number of licenses needed for street words).

Extract from Code Powers Request

The Applicant plans to use the proposed FTTP access network to offer Ultrafast broadband and telephony services to residential households. The Applicant may also offer suitable business-grade services if business and public sector sites are served.

The Applicant states that it has had difficulty ensuring that other telecoms providers deliver broadband and telephony services to its housing developments before purchasers move in, and that in some cases poor broadband speeds have been offered. The Applicant aims to address these problems by deploying its own network and offering retail services.

As noted above, the applicant plans to deploy its access network in areas where there is limited availability or no availability of Ultrafast broadband services.

Persimmon said that, wherever available and commercially viable, it intends to use either wholesale services purchased from other network operators or other network operator’s passive infrastructure, to provide connectivity between its housing developments and its core network.

Code Powers will be particularly useful for future maintenance work and situations where it deploys infrastructure on public highways (e.g. between its housing developments and core network, where alternatives are not available, or within housing developments where the roads have already been adopted as public highways etc.). Ofcom has proposed to approve the request.

After a bit of digging we were able to discover that FibreNest connected its first customers during August 2018 at the last count it had been deployed across more than 35 sites (c.630 customers connected to the service) with further roll outs planned.

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10 Responses
  1. Avatar dave

    They should probably try to to build better houses first.

  2. Avatar Bob

    What clout does Ofcom have over alt nets? They’re monopolistic, so what is to stop them ripping you off, given you have no choice but to use them?

    Ultimately traditional ISPs are paying Openreach for services, which is again a monopoly, but at least Ofcom can and does step in.

  3. Avatar Roger_Gooner

    FibreNest is patchily deployed in England, Wales and Scotland with no presence in London. Although FibreNest’s FTTP is welcome it’s not good that there isn’t more Virgin Media cabling in Persimmon’s developments as surely many people would prefer to get both broadband and TV down a single cable.

  4. Avatar Nick

    Shame they completely missed our side of an estate leaving us with UPTO 3Mbit/s while the other side has FTTP with BT and the next phase having “Fibre nest” and completely ignoring half an estates shouts to even just put FTTC in.

  5. Avatar arundel

    I hope their FTTP is better than their fireproofing…

  6. Avatar gerarda

    Aren’t Persimmon one of the builders that sold leashold houses that people are now stuck with paying huge ground rents?

    Maybe they see an opportunity to tie people into FTTP and then double the cost each year.

  7. Avatar NE555

    “reducing the number of licenses needed for street words”

    Unless we are talking about Unlicensed Street Countdown, I think that “street works” was intended 🙂

  8. Avatar Mark Alexander

    I had never heard of Fibrenest until I reserved a house in Bridgend.
    The house was perfect! Chose the carpets, etc and could wait to move into our dream home in a month’s time.
    She said that we would probably have ultrafast fibre by the time we moved in….
    As we work from home and needed fibre for our business, I phoned Fibrenest to confirm this…
    Guess what?! They told me it could be 6 MONTH’S or LONGER!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!

    We’re not buying the house.

    What is it they say about Jack of all trades???? Stop it. Concentrate on what you know.

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