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Openreach Introductory Pricing for 160Mbps and 330Mbps FTTP Broadband

Friday, May 19th, 2017 (3:46 pm) by Mark Jackson (Score 5,181)
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In keeping with today’s earlier G.fast announcement (here), Openreach (BT) has also confirmed the introductory pricing for their two matching Fibre-to-the-Premise (FTTP) based broadband speed tiers: 160Mbps (30Mbps upload) and 330Mbps (50Mbps upload).

The new tiers, which match the headline performance of those being supplied via Openreach’s new G.fast service, are priced at a more expensive level (although 160Mbps isn’t too bad). This is to be expected because pure fibre optic lines are usually more expensive and slower to deploy.

Variants

Connection Price

FTTP Transition Rental

(per month)

FTTP Data Rental

(per month)

FTTP Data + [Fibre Voice Access] Rental

(per month)

New pricing

160 / 30

£92

£12.75

£21.14

£21.39

330 / 50

£92

£29.61

£38.00

£38.25

The new tiers and prices will start from September 2017, although a solid date has yet to be set.

Openreach Statement

Changes to the Openreach Price List will be notified in due course once the launch date of these FTTP variants is confirmed. A minimum 28-days’ notice will be provided.

We also intend to introduce a time limited offer on bandwidth modifications for existing FTTP services upgrading to 160/30 Mbps and above. We expect this offer to be available at the time of launch of these new variants, and for a duration of three months.

As usual these are the costs that Openreach charges ISPs, which come before providers have added their own costs for service delivery, VAT (20%), profit margins, data capacity and other bits in order to create the product you buy. We’d suggest reading the earlier G.fast article as our analysis would be broadly the same for those above.

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  1. Steve Jones

    The FTTP 330/50 service is not a little more expensive than the g.fast equivalent. It’s a lot more expensive.

    • CarlT

      Holy cow. Nearly double the price for the same performance.

    • MikeW

      Presumably because G.Fast is more restricted by the “up to” limitation than FTTP.

    • CarlT

      Good luck getting that across to Joe Public.

    • GNewton

      Why is it more expensive than Gigaclear? E.g. Gigaclear charges £54.30 per month (incl. VAT) for its symmetric 200mbps fibre broadband. What makes BTs FTTP so much more expensive?

    • FibreFred

      You’ve been told why already. Sounds like a troll

    • CarlT

      Why is Gigaclear more expensive for 200Mb than Hyperoptic for 1Gb?

    • GNewton

      @CarlT: Hyperoptic is cheaper than Gigaclear because they mainly do urban areas, in particular blocks of flats, only. And quite often Hyperoptic doesn’t even have to dig up roads.

    • MikeW

      We’ve been comparing the pricing announced here to G.Fast, but how does it fit into the existing FTTP prices?

      It turns out that the pricing for all three of the 330/50 product variants is identical to the current pricing for the existing 330/30 product.

      The three 160/30 are slotted inbetween the existing 80/20 and 220/20 prices.

    • CarlT

      Gigaclear either have agreed takeup or public funding. They also are fully vertically integrated.

      Can’t compare any of the operators trivially. Different markets, different deployments, different commercial environments.

    • FibreFred

      None of the above will stop him comparing in the future 🙂

    • TheRealSlimShady

      6 months away from ISPR and some things never change. GNewton was trolling BT articles back then and he’s still doing it now.

    • GNewton

      @CarlT: As far as I know both Gigaclear and Hyperoptic are fully vertically integrated. But as I said, Hyperoptic naturally has lower deployment costs because of its urban focus. It would be more interesting to compare the deployment costs and methods between Virgin full-fibre Project Lightning, BT’s FTTP and Gigaclear.

  2. George M

    So adding a “Phone line over FTTP” aka FVA is only 25pence per month. I wonder what the retail difference will be between the 2 products (with or without FVA) when some ISP offers it.

    And do those of us who have been on FTTP for several years get a discount if we move to these new products? After all, we’ve had the expensive install done already and been paying back into the capital expenditure for a while now. 🙂

    • CarlT

      You get the same discount people who have been paying the same as you on your give speed service for rate adaptive ‘up to’ 40/10 and 80/20 over FTTC get, having paid towards a capital investment somewhere between 1/5th and 1/20th that involved in delivering service to you.

      That’s just the cost in passing your home. In the sake of fairness I’m ignoring your massively subsidised install.

    • George M

      @CarlT
      It was a joke re: discounts (in light of the thread above) hence the smiley face.
      The cost for phone service was the point I wished to raise so that came first without any smiley faces.

    • MikeW

      Probably best to avoid smiley faces. They don’t appear on every device

  3. Marty

    I’m one of fortunate one’s to have FTTP listed on demand recently after they updated there checker. Let me get this straight in my head. If I get FTTP on demand does it come from the PCP or the exchange? It’ll cost something crazy and top of that you have to pay extra for capacity and the engineer install?? Might as well stuff FTTP and wait for G.fast. Even though there’s more interference on the phone line with copper. Or possibly wait for FTTdp so FTTP on demand will fall more into the hands of the consumer.

    • 125uS

      Those are the charges Openreach make to ISPs – what you get charged is the remit of the ISP. They have legitimate extra costs to add in; I don’t expect Tesco to charge me the same price for a tin of beans that they buy them from their supplier for.

    • MikeW

      The fibre comes from neither the PCP nor the exchange.

      “FTTP on demand” is BT’s variant where you pay for the privilege. Installation costs are over £1,000 at a minimum – ie if you are within 200m of one of the NGA fibre flexibility points known as the “aggregation node” or “agg node”.

      The “agg node” is the point on the fibre spine (distribution cable) that holds splice trays, allowing the fibre within to be accessed and jointed.

      FTTC cabinets have fibres fed into them from an “agg node” too, but the node isn’t necessarily next to the FTTC cab or the PCP. In fact, there are considerably fewer “agg nodes” than PCPs – probably in a ratio of 1:3.

    • baby_frogmella

      Don’t forget the high monthly service charges only apply for the first 3 years (min term) after which you can take out a native FTTP service with much cheaper monthly line rental costs. So if you spread out the total costs over say a 25 year period in your forever home or business, then the investment becomes less eye watering.

      My FTTPoD installation is complete now, just waiting for BT/OR to hand the line over to Fluidone which should happen next week. Took ~ 3 months which is relatively fast but then again it was a fairly straightforward install.

    • GNewton

      @baby_frogmella: Thank you for sharing your experience of a FTTPoD deployment, especially for pointing out that after 3 years normal monthly costs of native FTTP apply. I still think the current FTTPoD product is overpriced, especially for the initial monthly line rental.

    • Bill

      Regarding the FTTP pricing after 3 years, I wonder if everyone is in for a big shock. Especially when the suppliers used to getting £300 a month for FTTPoD suddenly discover their revenue going down to £100 for the same service. (Yes their wholesale cost also goes down, but overall profit is likely to decrease I would guess.)

      I suspect prices for FTTP will go up from their current levels over the next few years unless OFCOM intervene.

  4. Marty

    After doing some digging and looking at the brownfield fibre network diagram I’ve got a grasp on how it all works now.

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