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Openreach List 81 New UK Areas for G.fast Ultrafast Broadband UPDATE

Monday, November 26th, 2018 (12:01 am) - Score 34,583

A further 81 new locations have today (November 2018 update) been confirmed as the next to benefit from Openreach’s (BT) roll-out of 330Mbps capable hybrid fibre G.fastultrafast broadband” ISP technology, which aims to cover 5.7 million UK homes and businesses by the end of 2020 (March 2021 financial year).

The G.fast (ITU G.9700/9701) service works in a similar way to existing Fibre-to-the-Cabinet (FTTC / VDSL2) technology by running a fibre optic cable to your local PCP Street Cabinet (note: VDSL2 has its own separate DSLAM cabinet – usually positioned close to the PCP cabinet), which is then fitted with an extension “pod” to house the line cards (this handles up to 48 ports, but it should eventually do 96). After that the service reaches your home via the existing copper cable.

gfast long openreach diagram

G.fast generally offers two primary wholesale service tiers at 160Mbps (30Mbps upload) and 330Mbps (50Mbps upload), which ISPs market using slower “average” speeds due to the advertising rules. The service also attracts a fault threshold 100Mbps (here), which helps to ensure that only those able to get an “ultrafast” (100Mbps+) speed will be able to order it (most of those who can’t should still be able to take VDSL2).

We should point out that G.fast is being seen as a complement to Openreach’s separate roll-out of Gigabit capable Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) technology, which is expected to cover 3 million premises by the end of 2020 and could then reach 10 million by around 2025. Crucially FTTP and G.fast will aim not to overbuild each other so as to maximise overall “ultrafast” coverage (a little bit of overlap is inevitable).

Consumers who order a G.fast line will be visited by an engineer (a self-install solution is coming here) and they will most likely provide you with a new Master Socket (NTE5C) and a modem (Huawei MT992), which can be plugged into an existing router. You can also expect to pay a premium of around +£10-£15 extra per month vs the previous generation of FTTC / VDSL2 services (those offered max speeds of up to 80Mbps).

NOTE: Today’s list of 81 areas should add over 1 million premises across the UK to their G.fast coverage. So far the service has already reached 1.29 million homes and businesses.

The 81 New G.fast Locations (Nov 2018 Update)

Acomb, Addiscombe, Aintree, Ascot, Bargoed (Cardiff), Barking, Barnsley, Beckenham, Beulah Hill (Croydon), Blackpool, Bootle, Bradford, Broadwell, Canonbury, Chingford, Colchester, Colindale, Dalton in Furness, Daubhill, Deal, Dover, Downloand (Croydon), Earley, Eastbourne, Eastleigh, Enfield, Faversham, Felixstowe, Feltham, Forest Hill, Godalming, Greenwich, Hamilton, Harlesden, Hatch End, Healing, Hendon, Hitchin, Hyde, Kemptown, Kentish Town, Kenton, Leicester Central, Leytonstone, Lincoln, Littlehampton, Llanrumney, Lords, Lower Holloway, Malden, Midland (Birmingham), Mill Hill, Moss Side, North Wembley, Northampton, Oldham, Pendleton, Plympton, Ponders End, Prescot, Primrose hill, Purfleet, Rainham, Rock Ferry, Rushey Green, Staylbridge, Stamford, Stoke City, Sydenham (Croydon), Teddington, Tewkesbury, Tranent (South East Scotland), Upper Holloway, Urmston (South Manchester), Wallington, Waterloo, Wembley, West Kensington, West Wickham, Willesden, Worthing Central.

One significant drawback with G.fast is that its coverage is much more limited than VDSL2. G.fast typically prefers copper lines (from street cabinet to homes) that are shorter than c.350 metres (it can work at up to c.500 metres max but only very slowly), while VDSL2 could in some cases still operate at line lengths of up to c.2km (2000 metres); albeit at much slower speeds due to signal degradation over distance.

In order to get some of the best G.fast speeds you generally need a line that’s under c.200 metres and this is a big hindrance to network coverage, although future improvements (e.g. harnessing 212MHz of spectrum instead of 106MHz today) could improve this but it’s still a very restricted technology. On the upside G.fast is comparatively cheap and very quick to deploy (no need to dig new cables etc.).

Kim Mears, MD for Strategic Infrastructure Development, said:

“Currently, the UK is a world leader in digital infrastructure and services, but as the digital revolution rushes forwards and the demand for data continues to grow, we need to sure we stay ahead of the curve. That’s why we’re investing in faster, more reliable network infrastructure to facilitate all the activities we want to do now, and also those we haven’t even dreamt of doing in ten years’ time.”

As this is a rapid commercial deployment (no public funding involved) then it’s widely expected that most of the areas where Openreach are deploying will be urban, which also suggests a strong competitive focus on areas where Virgin Media’s faster cable (DOCSIS) network may already be present. Sadly rural areas are unlikely to benefit, although no doubt there will be a few.

One other point to make is that Openreach won’t be covering 100% of every area listed for the roll-out, although the proportion of premises reached will vary from location to location and they often come back later to do further in-fill after the first deployment. In some urban areas not getting G.fast may even be a blessing in disguise as you could be more likely to benefit from FTTP in the future.

If your area isn’t mentioned in today’s announcement (or previous ones) then don’t worry, more announcements will follow over the next couple of years.

Previous G.fast Rollout Announcements
* Pilot 1 (August 2017)
* Pilot 2 (December 2017) – c.1 Million Premises (Pilot 1 + 2)
* June 2018 Update – 59 Locations – c.370,000 Premises added

UPDATE 28th Nov 2018 – 10:13am

A tiny bit of extra data has been revealed, which confirms the number of homes and businesses that will benefit in the South East (see below). Sadly Openreach has not released similar data for the other areas covered by this roll-out phase.

Berkshire 20,000

Essex 15,000

Hampshire 11,000

Hertfordshire 6,000

Kent 21,000

London 464,000

Surrey 10,000

Sussex 32,000

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87 Responses
  1. Avatar SIMON HAYTER says:

    Kim Mears, MD for Strategic Infrastructure Development, said: “Currently, the UK is a world leader in digital infrastructure and services” <– LOL OK! We are far far behind in the World.

    1. Avatar Martin says:

      Exactly 🙂 UK is very behinde compare another countries. For example Slovakia, where is 1GB xDSL, people have 600-800mbps download speed. ..
      I’m living 1km from Gloucester city center and I’ve got ADSL with 7mbps download…shame on you openreach

    2. Avatar Jigsy says:

      Mine’s started dropping down to half a Megabit again.

    3. Avatar CarlT says:

      As of this year 75% of Slovakia had fixed line broadband. Bad example.

    4. Avatar Mike says:

      Why not just use 4G?

    5. Avatar Barsh Mashlova says:


      Yeah that is a strawman

      i live in slovakia i have 12mbps dsl

      hahah where u get this 1gbps xdsl hahahahaha

      fastest speed here 30Mbps

      i u mean someone in captial city can get 1gbps ? sure i can say the same for uk.

  2. Avatar Ed says:

    How do we know which areas within those above?

    1. Mark Jackson Mark Jackson says:

      Use the BT Wholesale or Openreach availability checker and wait to see when or if it says G.fast is available. Sadly very few operators ever release detailed street-by-street deployment plans.

    2. Avatar Simon says:

      Also check out roadworks.org and put your postcode in. You can go up to a year on planned works

  3. Avatar Chris Walker says:

    The list says Stoke City, that’s a bit vague. Is it Stoke on Trent or the football stadium?
    Openreach website was last updated in June from what I can see.
    I’m hoping it’s Stoke on Trent. No virgin where I live.

    1. Avatar Fastman says:

      that’s the exchange name

  4. Avatar Mark Edwards says:

    Openreach G.Fast are just a waste of time and should scrap it! FTTP for all.

    1. Avatar Simon says:

      Hey Max 🙂 Not seen you for a while

    2. Avatar Fastman says:

      Mark how much you going to contribute towards the roll out off FTTP then ?

    3. Avatar GFast & FTTC - Why Bother says:

      Surley it’s not really a question of what is anyone going to contribute but moree a question of why is Openreach continuing to waste money on redundant technology that ultimately wastes tax payers money (based on the funding the have recieved to provide substandard broadband using out dated technology. That will need replacing very soon to meet the aspiration of FTTP/H for all.

      It would seem sensible to just get on with it now rather than paying twice which we will all have to contribute to! Based on most of the articles posted here recently Openreach seem to continue to dempnstrate that they are lacking vision and have very short term thinking based on the continued view that they will just hover up the next round of money.

      This article jut goes to prove the point. I live very close to one of the exchanges mentioned. Openreach will waste money instally GFast that no one will want or use as the whole area is covered by symetric 1GB FTTP/H that is currently half the price! But hey better to waste money on that than start dealing with proper rural broadband or providing a competitive FTTP network. Which in my area they could do as they have recently replaced loads of colasped ducting and have the infrastructure in place that would mean they don’t even have to dig.

    4. Avatar Fastman says:

      Surley it’s not really a question of what is anyone going to contribute but moree a question of why is Openreach continuing to waste money on redundant technology that ultimately wastes tax payers money (based on the funding the have recieved to provide substandard broadband using out dated technology. That will need replacing very soon to meet the aspiration of FTTP/H for all.

      well as none of this is tax payers money (more disinformation as ever) but Openreach spending their own I would assume that their choice (ie a commercial decision they deided to make — it will be significantly cheaper in some area to deploy gfast rather than FTTP (fttp especially in urban is hard complex expensive especially if there a significant estates that are all no duct and short distance from the DSLSM.

      FTTP for all is a pipe dream and unless you’ve got billions to spend it never going to happen , as the cost of deployment will be astrnomical

      im sure if you wanted to fund your own FTTP with Openreach , the Community fibre partnership programme enables to co fund that. But that can be expensive especially if your area is no duct

    5. Avatar GFast & FTTC - Why Bother says:

      I think it is a question of contribution and business strategy. Openreach are simply wasting money that could be better invested in their network by not continuing to offer slower speeds than other providers in areas where new better networks have been built. It is not misinformation but a sad fact! There have ben more than a few articles on this site where BT have announced they are going to build a slower network than another provider in the same area.

      They do hoover up money from local authorities in respect to rural broadband and then provide an appalling connection for the privilege. Long delays and the bear minimum in terms of infrastructure enhancements that means they will have to do the expensive civils works again when they do get of their backside and provide a better network. You can guarantee that it will be the taxpayer that will be picking up the bill!

      To say that they are not receiving money from taxpayers via various schemes is simply wrong! To say that FTTP/H is a pipe dream is also incorrect as there has already been announcements that that is the intention by the government to achieve this in a 10 year time frame. It’s also like saying every home having a telephone is a nonsense or why do people need a home computer. The truth is that proper nationwide fibre broadband is maybe the only thing that will save this country from economic decline.

      Yes it will cost a fortune and in my view it is the right thing to do. Continuing to waste money on old tech is not – FTTC is becoming more and more redundant. Planning for the future should be something that Openreach should be doing much more aggressively. If they want to survive long term they need to be more ambitious as copper is not long for this world, especially if you look at the rate of change in the past 15 years. Openreach’s FTTP products are slower than any other network providers fibre products, their business products are not very competitive either. As a company that holds a lot of cards in terms of national network infrastructure (that as taxpayers we paid for dating back to when they were state owned. There plodding approach isn’t good enough. If they need to put infrastructure in to get fibre to a rural cabinet they should put in the infrastructure in the form of dark fibres to upgrade that in a 10 year period. After all the civils is the most expensive part.

    6. Avatar Fastman says:

      There is no taxpayer money on gfast all commercial

      The overbuild has been where the omr was not responded to was not completed so local authority had no option but to include that area in scope scope in the contract

      Openreach only get paid for and auditable checked line at greater than 24 mbps anythjng that is below that openreach don’t get paid for

      Nor disinformation as ever

  5. Avatar Phil says:

    The irony is most people able to benefit from G.Fast could get 100/30 now with no new hardware required at either end if OpenReach just allowed VDSL to sync up to the maximum speed the line is able to operate at as they did with ADSL Max. My line length is borderline 100Mbps for a G.Fast service (if it was ever launched where I am) however it would sync to around 95/30 if it wasn’t capped at 80/20 on VDSL without any new hardware needed.

    G.Fast really is a folly and should be halted. If it was being installed and used as it was designed for as nodes very close to the premises which also benefits us all by bringing real fibre closer to homes it might have been worthwhile, but going for what is Long Range G.Fast with no shortening of copper distances, which also causes additional complications with capacity and vectoring (the processing power required to vector 64 or more lines is crazy), is a very short sighted and poor decision by BT Openreach.

    1. Avatar Mark Edwards says:

      If OpenReach just allowed VDSL to sync up to the maximum speed the line is able to operate at as they did with ADSL Max. (NO CHANCE OF THAT with Openreach because BTw will never sold this)

    2. Avatar Mark Edwards says:

      I agree with you over very poor decision by Openreach on cheaper unfit for purpose G.Fast because it still on copper and still on DLM.

      Should have full FTTP roll out instead and stop waste money on crappy G.Fast.

    3. Avatar Chris Walker says:

      I’ve recently had multiple visits from Openreach. I’m on a 50 pair cable which is full, ADSL is max 3.5mb where I am so everybody is on FTTC, it needs a 100pair cable but they won’t fit it because it costs money.
      Thankfully I got quite friendly with the engineer and he’s swapped me to another cable that runs behind my street. Which he shouldn’t have done. Low and behold I’ve got an extra 15mb on my access speed.
      I’m lucky the aluminium cables aren’t part of my line, but that’s another story.

  6. Avatar Bob says:

    Why can’t we pay for what we get? A recent check on a BT advert said 50mb down load for £xxx on checking the maximum I can achieve ever is 40mb so pay for what you can actually achieve if it’s less than advertised.

    1. Avatar Joe says:

      The adverts always said ‘up to’ they never promise a specific speed (FTTP I suppose you could)

    2. Avatar New_Londoner says:

      How does your achieved speed compare with the personalised speed estimate that you will have been provided with before you committed to the contract?

    3. Avatar EndlessWaves says:

      @Bob: Because the service costs the same amount to provide regardless of how fast it is. In fact given that slower speeds are caused by longer lines the costs are in some ways higher if you get less speed.

      You’re paying for an FTTC connection, not an ##Mbps connection.

  7. Avatar Meadmodj says:

    A G.fast pod on a PCP cabinet can only provide for a small percentage of lines regardless of the distance issue. It is a tactical product not a roll-out one. It utilises existing power and fibre from the FTTC cabinet so in cost and practical terms does not impact on FTTP resource or funding and much of the spend is committed and apparently costs in. OR appear now to have switched to Fibre first but they need to their maintain revenues to fund it as additional debt is currently not an option.

    The reality is that most people just want a basic, practical speed and reliable broadband. While there are still the offers ADSL pricing is rising with many consumers going for a higher product (if available) mainly in the belief they may get better. Cabinet G.fast is only for those that can justify the cost and possibly focussed on SMEs that need something cheaper than lease line.

    Whether they are targeting VM areas I don’t know but I can’t see any G.fast round my way.

    There is a lot of noise about “fibre” advertising but the main issue is still Up To best endeavour. Products should be From To. ISPs are being cleverer regarding what products they offer at a location and BT displays the speed to the house if historically known but my view is that OR should be proactively addressing lines that are performing significantly less than the theoretical speed achievable for the line distance.

    1. Avatar Simon says:

      “G.fast is only for those that can justify the cost and possibly focussed on SMEs that need something cheaper than lease line.”

      top package is £12 a month cheaper than I pay for FTTC – so how do you figure?

    2. Avatar CarlT says:

      I imagine he figures based on that the overwhelming majority of people pay either BT, TalkTalk or Sky for their FTTC. I can’t see many people subscribing to TalkTalk Retail for the amazing quality of the product.

    3. Avatar CarlT says:

      If we’re talking about pricing, however, guaranteed speeds and proactive maintenance will only send them one way. Good, fast, cheap. Pick two.

    4. Avatar Simon says:

      Thanks for the info – a few cabs in my area (so bound to be on my exchange as they are closer to it than I am have started to say on roadworks.org

      “Build 1 precast jointing chamber(s) (350mm x 200mm) 300mm”

      I am hoping this is them adding the pods – if so mine shouldn’t be much longer. But I will go and have a look on that road when the work is done and see if I am right or not.

    5. Avatar CarlT says:

      Probably isn’t. The pods use a cable connecting existing FTTC cabinet to the new pod and don’t require any further external cabling. Building new chambers can be done for a number of reasons.

      The only streetworks usually associated with these installs are PCP reshelling.

    6. Avatar Simon says:

      Ah okay – thanks again

    7. Avatar CarlT says:

      Sure. Check https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/03/openreach-sets-uk-g-fast-broadband-isp-fault-threshold-100mbps.html on this site. Diagram there showing how things are. Uses existing ducting and if no duct is available needs a new one dug to existing junction box, no need to build a new one and if any roadworks were done relating to a G.fast deployment they would be in the area from FTTC cabinet to PCP, inclusive of both.

    8. Avatar Simon says:

      Lots of engineers have started working at the PCP and the FTTC box all day for the past 2 days – I am hoping this is prepping it for g.fast. but if not then I’ve lost nothing – However I am on 30 day VM contract and would shift for the extra upload or get a second line again if it does happen.

      If not then I am fine as I am.

    9. Avatar CarlT says:

      No real preparation work for it. Either the cab needs a new shell or it doesn’t and once the new shell is on the pod goes on promptly. No need for further cable management, that was done when FTTC was introduced, and no need for much work at the DSLAM.

      Doesn’t mean there isn’t a different workflow there of course, but apart from reshelling pods were attached, multiple pods, within a day around here.

  8. Avatar Ixel says:

    While I’m a bit disappointed that the live city I live in is listed as getting G.fast, I’m also outside of the supported distance. Fortunately, however, unless I end up moving address then I’ll be getting FTTP soon as I’ve ordered FTTPoD (the actual quote was in the 3k range) and underground cabling is about to begin.

  9. Avatar Ivan Sherrington says:

    If only, part of a new build development of 280 houses (approx 100 built) and ongoing. Lines ordered on promise of 9-15 Mbps. A new copper only cabinet was installed approx 8 months ago after a 5 month delay by OR despite it being 4 miles from the exchange. Have to wonder why they would do this when the copper drop off is well known. There is an existing fibre box literally over the road. Actual speed obtained is approx 1.5Mbps. My view false economy to install old tech. If ISPreview want more detail let me know as happy for anyone to hold OR to account.

    1. Avatar CarlT says:

      The decision of what to install wasn’t Openreach’s.

    2. Avatar New_Londoner says:

      In this case it sounds like you should’ve finding out why your developer didn’t arrange for FTTP from Openreach. That number of houses would have qualified, it sounds like the developer wasn’t interested?

    3. Avatar New_Londoner says:

      xx should’ve xx should be

    4. Avatar Ivan Sherrington says:

      Yeah the developer isn’t interested. However at the time they put the box in OR would have been fully aware that due to distance the service would be very very poor. I contacted Matthew Hemmings – OR – Director – Fibre Network Delivery, UK North and have been promised 4 times now that he will look into it with no joy. If anyone can suggest a route of escalation any help appreciated. The main issue I have is why install copper when they had to break into a cable to do so and there is also a fibre cable running alongside it. Surely it doesn’t take a genius to work out that these days 1Mbps doesn’t cut it. If they had installed FTTC then pretty sure they would have close to a 100% take up rate, let alone G fast or FTTP.

    5. Avatar Fastman says:


      the only way they cab will be done is either the community or the developer fund the gap

      if this was registered with openrewach prior to 2016 it will be a new copper cab

      I would assume the developer has been given the offer to co fund it with openreach and has declined

    6. Avatar Fastman says:

      also the developer will have been paid to have copper installed . and is likely to get a figure for every connection made ((if the developer asked for X then X will have been provided and Developer will have been paid to have X provided (pre 2015 registration with Openreach X unless otherwise specifically stated was Copper)

  10. Avatar chris says:

    Gfast is only so by can increase the avarage speed of there network
    As once again it doesn’t help those who need it

    Currently on fttc with a 13mb line speed so this won’t help me at all

  11. Avatar Simon says:

    So they abandoned it and now it’s back? Some of my area has g.fast already – will they fill in the rest?

    1. Avatar Joe says:

      No. they nvr abandoned it. They have shifted more of the rollout to FttP from Gfast but they always intended to keep doing Gfast. Its very easy to do in certain urban environments and gives good speed at short distances.

    2. Avatar Simon says:

      We are under 100M from it – and they have done all cabs around us so here is hoping

    3. Avatar Joe says:

      providing your cab is economic I can’t see why they won’t on present plans. (By that I mean sufficient numbers to cover the cost of the pod)

    4. Avatar Simon says:

      Well, they put in on my old FTTC cab – which I know had 9 lines on it when I moved out – as an engineer showed me – it had been in for 2 years

    5. Avatar Joe says:

      If they put a pod on a 9 line cab i’m surprised. Around my way they didn’t upgrade cabs higher than that to fttc/gfast but went straight to fttp.

    6. Avatar CarlT says:

      If losing out to VM it makes sense to upgrade the cabinet. However if there’s ducting ready to go it may also make sense to go straight to FTTP. The costs for FTTP in brownfield areas are not insignificant, though, even when there’s duct or polls available, if either of those are of any age.

  12. Avatar Paul W says:

    how do i check my line distance from my house to the cabinet?

    I can only see from the exchange.

    1. Avatar Joe says:

      Google maps or walk it. Not to hard to calculate usually. You can use your bb speed as a crude measure.

    2. Avatar SuperFast Dream says:

      Joe’s recommendations may help but you may wish to use the BTw checker first to make sure you are definitely connected to a cabinet (as it will define which one) and you’re not on an EoL.

      Also, if walking it you need to be absolutely sure you know the lay of the land with the cabling or unfortunately you may end up wasting your time.

    3. Avatar Paul W says:

      I’m on a cabinet. I don’t see how walking to my cabinet would help determine the length of the line of copper I have. I don’t have xray eyes to see where it is layed underground.

  13. Avatar Tim says:

    Was funny hearing that Dover was getting Ultrafast. Err there is already Virgin Media there. I guess the radio presenter has no idea.

    I wonder if it is a blessing that Canterbury isn’t on the list. Hopefully Hyperoptic will start their rollout to locations in Canterbury with installation agreed very soon.

    1. Avatar Simon says:

      Yeah because BT would never move into an area where VM already is…

  14. Avatar Daniel says:

    This is a bit confusing as parts of Norwich now have G.fast available but it hasn’t been on any of the lists so far. E.g if you check an address in NR7 0TP it has a speed estimate for G.fast.

    1. Avatar Jim says:

      I’m guessing they are waiting till the whole city is covered – I’m in NR2 and only a couple of cabinets near me have had pods fitted so far but there are roadworks planned over the next few months to add the rest it seems.

    2. Avatar Mark Edwards says:

      G.Fast Pod installing will not show up in Roadworks.Org

    3. Avatar Jim says:

      @Mark I should have added most of the roadworks have been re-shelling cabinets however some are showing that a G-Fast pod is being installed e.g. https://roadworks.org/?108832609

  15. Avatar Tom says:

    My local cabinet has had the g.fast pod installed as has most of my town, yet g.fast it not available at all…..

    Surely it’s in their best interest to impress Ofcom and get the numbers up quicker

    1. Avatar TheFacts says:

      How do you know it’s working, connected etc.?

    2. Avatar Simon says:

      Probably not showing in the checker?

    3. Avatar Tom says:


      An Openreach engineer advised when at my house to resolve a fault

      Which may I add was as a result of a copper run from the cabinet to the pole needing replacing which never got done due to a final speed test which brought the result to within 0.3 of my minimum guaranteed speeds so they cancelled the new copper run! Openreach said I should be getting at least an extra 15mbps sigh……

    4. Avatar Joe says:

      You can’t take the engineers word as fact. The cab/pod may all be ready but backhaul might be missing. Though it also possible its live. You can often order services before they appear on the live checkers…

  16. Avatar Jamie Simms says:

    I really expected Market Harborough to be on the list as every single FTTC cabinet has had the G Fast Pods fitted for a few months now and engineers have been and installed all the internals for it and linked it up but still cannot order the service on any cabinet.
    I presume that they are probably waiting for new backhaul to go into the exchange or something

    1. Avatar Stuart says:

      We have had the Pods for nearly 6 months. Nothing. Do they still need the Pods for FTTP?

    2. Avatar Geoff says:

      Your lucky Jamie where I live in Melton (within the towns perimeter) my cab was one of two that never got fibered up by the cretins at Openpray so still struggle on at slow adsl speeds. After having several attempts at sorting out these idiots I have got nowhere. They are only interested if it suits them and cannot ever be called a proper BB infrastructure company.

    3. Avatar Joe says:

      Pods are only for Gfast. FttP works from joints not the cabinet. Different teams do different jobs so its not unusual to find they build the pods long before they might have built the backhaul etc…

    4. Avatar Fastman says:


      I assum you cab neither meets the commercial threshold or the BDUK value for money criteria as being good use of public money which is why it has not been done

  17. Avatar FibreBubble says:

    Openreach subby can fit and connect a gfast pod in around a day. It’s a no brainer. Gfast pods fitted quick, FTTP running at thousands passed per day. The knockers need top get with the times. The question is no longer if BT invest in faster speeds but whether there is demand.

  18. Avatar CarlT says:

    On many levels I am relieved that I will never be in a position where G.fast is my only option for something that ‘might’ be faster than FTTC.

    New-ish build cable right now, about as new as the hybrid network gets, and FTTP in the new place.

    Had it been done from remote nodes the product would’ve been much more appealing but it was a box ticking exercise.

  19. Avatar Geoff says:

    Fastman there are fibered up cabs off this exchange area with less than 12 working lines, ours has at least 50. Openpray remain in my eyes a waste of space and should be forced to sell non fibre cabs to other companies who will get the job done

    1. Avatar Fastman says:

      Geoff if that was done it was done under BDUK (though Id ben very surprised that a cab with that few lines was enabled as it would be poor used of public money by local authority. I assume you are not how the network works as a sub loop unbundler (operator) could have built their own cab next to the pcp (they are are allowed to do that but I assume there no money in it which is why it has not been done

    2. Avatar Gadget says:

      Any ISP can unbundle a cabinet using sub-loop unbundling, but very few takers apart from niche

    3. Avatar TheFacts says:

      Which exchange?

  20. Avatar Marty says:

    Anybody running g.fast service with the ECI cabs? What’s the performance difference between them and the Huawei cabs.

    1. Avatar TheFacts says:

      gfast is unconnected with the FTTC service.

  21. Avatar Fast Broadband dreamer says:

    It’s all well and good announcing more G Fast sites, but how many of the 56 announced back in July have been fitted out and ready to go?
    Bury St Edmunds was announced as one of the 56 additional sites back in July, and so far all I have seen is two OpenReach cabinets in my local area with GFast additional cabinets added, one is making a loud fan noise 24/7.. And no GFast service available as yet..

    OpenReach if you are reading this; pull your finger out and deliver a service please. You have customers waiting for this…

    1. Avatar Geoff says:

      If Openpray have got anything to do with it you have got no chance . Ofcom should have more teeth and force this outfit to be sold off entirely from BT to create a level playing field for all BB providers in all areas and not just provide or tinker with the network as they see fit. They are utterly useless and not fit for the purpose of creating an equivalent fibre network.

    2. Avatar TheFacts says:

      @Geoff – there are other providers availble for you.

    3. Avatar Fastman says:


      openreach support circa 600 provider equivalently , about 150 of those offer FTTC the rest only copper

      seems the be is your cab is not viable by any means (either commercial or BDUK). You the have 2 options you petition or offer another operator to build in your area or you ask your community to co fund with openreach (using the LLFN vouchers as part funding , . there are options, options if you want to do something. so you have options. choice is do you do something or nothing . I assume your in No build for BDUK ?

  22. Avatar jrhop says:

    Our cabinet has additional POD, which I can see from my house, probs 100 metres away. When I do an Openreach check it says GFAST is accepting orders, but when I go to BT/Zen etc they say it isnt available yet. Is this just BT/ISPs being slow to make it available?

  23. Avatar Brian says:

    My local exchange says its FTTP enabled but when I do tests and called BT they say my cabinet is not fttp enabled so I cannot get it.

    Is that correct, is it per cabinet and if so Im only 100mtrs from it and the checkers says I can get 330.

  24. Avatar Gary says:

    Unless BT is going to install new Cabinets I believe offering G.Fast to their customers will be extremely limited.

    My Cabinet as the crow flies is 780 metres away, so I will have no chance of getting G.Fast, and the same will apply to most people around this area unless your cabinet is parked right outside your door!

    Cabinets in my area are very spread out so there will be very few who can get the speeds we are talking about here.

    Which essentially means most of my area will be stuck with 8-year-old VDSL speeds no faster than 20Mbps, which in this day and age is shockingly poor. I can’t even stream 4K, and if I want to buy and play a new game on the PS4 I have to download overnight and then play the next day… seriously crap!!!

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