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BT Confirm the Final 99 UK Locations for its Superfast Broadband Rollout

Tuesday, February 12th, 2013 (10:40 am) by Mark Jackson (Score 24,711)
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National UK telecoms operator BT has today announced a final list of 99 telephone exchanges that will soon be able to receive its latest 80Mbps capable Fibre-to-the-Cabinet (FTTC) or “ultra-fast” 330Mbps Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) based superfast broadband ISP products through their commercial roll-out.

The new service already passes more than 13 million homes and businesses (increasing by around 100,000 every week) and BT is spending £2.5bn of its own money to reach a total coverage of 66% by the spring of 2014 (18 months earlier than originally planned), when the telecoms operator is expected to reach 19 million premises (i.e. ending its commercial roll-out).

The latest list of upgrades (Phase 11) are expected to add an extra 1.2 million homes and businesses (premises passed) to the operators superfast network coverage (291,000 of today’s new premises are in Scotland), with the majority being given estimated Ready for Service Dates (RFS) that run into spring 2014.

As usual the dates are prone to lengthy delays and some of BT’s future exchanges are already due in 2015 (i.e. those related to BDUK funding). It’s also noted that 600,000 out of the 1.2m total will gain FTTC/P as a result of additional infill work in previously announced exchange areas and more work like this, which expands coverage via street cabinets, is also expected.

Overall BT has now confirmed around 1,700 telephone exchange areas across the United Kingdom which will make up the bulk of its commercial fibre footprint. In other words today’s update is effectively the last of BT’s commercial roll-outs and future progress will come through BDUK and related projects with public funding support. However BT has said that it may still reveal a few extra commercial upgrades in the future but “none are planned at the moment“.

Mike Galvin, Openreach’s Managing Director, said:

The UK is making great progress with super-fast broadband and this latest phase of work will keep up the momentum. Speeds are increasing all the time with the UK second only to Japan within the G8. I am sure that communities across the UK will be pleased to see that they are factored into our commercial plans and I now look forward to working with councils to identify further areas that we can enable with their support.

Our fibre deployment continues to gather pace. Our engineers are working round the clock to hit our ambitious target of reaching two thirds of UK premises with fibre during Spring 2014 – at least eighteen months ahead of the original timetable. The work doesn’t stop there however as we are also helping to roll out fibre to other parts of the country working in partnership with local authorities as part of the BDUK activity.”

The national deployment of BT’s new superfast broadband technology remains dominated by its FTTC service, which only takes the new fibre optic cable as far as your street cabinet (i.e. slower and more variable speeds than true fibre optic FTTP lines). The good news is that anybody with an FTTC line will, from next spring 2013, be able to order FTTP via BT’s new FTTP-on-Demand (FTTPoD) product.

Unfortunately FTTPoD is expected to cost up to around £1,000 or more, which is necessary because a new fibre optic cable has to be run directly to your doorstep. Thankfully the monthly rental price will remain more of less the same as a normal FTTP package and those who take it would thus benefit from having access to “ultra-fast” 330Mbps speeds (assuming the ISP can afford to supply it). This product is more intended for “premium” users, such as small businesses, although home owners will also be able to order it.

On top of that BT claims that it could expand the reach of its superfast broadband (FTTC/P) services to 90% of the United Kingdom, although to do so would require them to win the lion’s share of the government’s Broadband Delivery UK (BDUK) budget (worth around £1bn). This now looks inevitable and BT has already set aside a further £1bn of its own money to match-fund with any public investment.

The New FTTx Telephone Exchange Upgrades (Phase 11)
Allestree Park – East Midlands
Alloway – Scotland
Ambergate – East Midlands
Atherstone – West Midlands
Avonmouth – South West
Barnard Castle – North East
Barton on Humber – Yorkshire and The Humber
Battle – South East
Beamish – North East
Beith – Scotland
Belgravia – London
Belper – East Midlands
Birtley – North East
Blairgowrie – Scotland
Blythe Bridge – West Midlands
Bonnybridge – Scotland
Bosham – South East
Bracklesham Bay – South East
Broadwell – West Midlands
Broomfield – East of England
Cambusnethan – Scotland
Carnoustie – Scotland
Castle Donington – East Midlands
Cheddington – South East
Chelmsley Wood – West Midlands
Chelsea – London
Chorleywood – East of England
Coatbridge – Scotland
Conisbrough – Yorkshire and The Humb
Cooden – South East
Cuckoo Oak – West Midlands
Dalry (West of Scotland) – Scotland
Darlington – North East
Drumchapel – Scotland
Dundee Claverhouse – Scotland
Dundee Steeple – Scotland
Dunston – North East
Duntocher – Scotland
Dysart – Scotland
Easington – North East
East (Central Midlands) – West Midlands
East Kilbride – Scotland
Ebchester – North East
Eckington; Derbyshire – East Midlands
Ellon – Scotland
Finchfield – West Midlands
Forres – Scotland
Gillingham (Solent) – South West
Glenrothes (South) – Scotland
Greyfriars – West Midlands
Grimsby – Yorkshire and The Humb
Hagley – West Midlands
Harefield – London
Harwich – East of England
Healing – Yorkshire and The Humb
Hollinswood – West Midlands
Houghton Regis – East of England
Hunts Cross – North West
Hurstpierpoint – South East
Johnstone – Scotland
Kennoway – Scotland
Kensington Gardens – London
Keresley – West Midlands
Knebworth – East of England
Loanhead – Scotland
Lochgelly – Scotland
Market Drayton – West Midlands
Melbourne; Derbyshire – East Midlands
MERRYLEE – Scotland
Mexborough – Yorkshire and The Humb
MILTON LEE – West Midlands
NEWBIGGIN ON LUNE – North West
NORTON (NORTH EAST) – North East
Olney – South East
PROVANMILL – Scotland
RADCLIFFE ON TRENT – East Midlands
Rawmarsh Parkgate – Yorkshire and The Humb
REDCAR – North East
RENFREW – Scotland
RUNCORN EAST – North West
SCARTHO – Yorkshire and The Humb
SEATON DELAVAL – North East
Shanklin – South East
Shipston On Stour – West Midlands
STECHFORD – West Midlands
STOKE CITY – West Midlands
SWANAGE – South West
Thrybergh – Yorkshire and The Humb
TICKHILL – Yorkshire and The Humb
TIPTON – West Midlands
TRENTHAM – West Midlands
TURRIFF – Scotland
WALSGRAVE- ON-SOWE – West Midlands
Wath upon Dearne – Yorkshire and The Humb
WELLESBOURNE – West Midlands
WELLFIELD – North East
WHICKHAM – North East
Wollaton – East Midlands
Yapton – South East

Readers should check out Openreach’s Superfast-Broadband website, which usually contains the most up-to-date details about coverage in specific areas. It’s also important to mention that BT’s FTTC technology typically covers an average of around 85% of homes and businesses within an enabled telephone exchange area (i.e. having an upgraded exchange doesn’t mean you’ll be able to receive the service as street cabinet coverage is now more important).

Previous BT FTTC/FTTP UK Exchange Updates

* March 2009 – 29 (FTTC) Exchanges
* July 2009 – 69 (FTTC) Exchanges
* January 2010 – 63 (FTTC) Exchanges
* March 2010 – 303 (FTTC) Exchanges
* September 2010 – 159 (FTTC/FTTP) Exchanges
* January 2011 – 41 (FTTC/FTTP) Exchanges
* April 2011 – 156 (FTTC/FTTP) Exchanges
* June 2011 – 66 (FTTC/FTTP) Exchanges
* December 2011 – 178 (FTTC) Exchanges
* March 2012 – 73 (FTTC) Exchanges
* June 2012 – 98 (FTTC) Exchanges
* September 2012 – 163 (FTTC) Exchanges

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  1. Kyle

    Scotland, West Midlands and Yorkshire & The Humber announcement then!

  2. Lester

    Ah poo. My area missed again but I always knew we’d have to wait for BDUK funding. Still annoying that we’ll have to wait even longer for confirmation.

  3. Sheffield Owl

    A lot of the Yorkshire and the Humber locations are actually in South Yorkshire,so why not say South Yorkshire.

  4. Phil

    YESSSSSSS finally at last cuckoo oak is named !!!! Thanks BT

  5. DTMark

    How can there be an announcement of new “commercial” deployments at a stage after local authorities have already submitted plans for those left out of the commercial deployment?

    In other words, based on the BDUK farce guaranteeing to “bung” all the money in BT’s direction thanks to the framework of the funding, how can there be a real separation or distinction between those funded by BT and those funded by us?

  6. Tom L

    HOW can the UK’s fifth largest city’s (Sheffield) Central exchange still not be included in the last commercial roll-out?!

  7. LincolnshireLeftOutAgain

    Well done BT. Give yourselves a pat on the back for enabling just 1700 exchanges out of 5400 in the UK. If you really pride yourself on your network and the customers that fund your and your monopolies then you would have easily seen that in order for the UK to play catchup against other better connected countries you would have to go 1 step further than just enabling 1700 out of 5400. My county of Lincolnshire is the 2nd largest county in the whole country and yet out of 1700 exchanges you’ve selected only 15 which you say are only worthy of an upgrade. BT it would appear really couldn’t give 2 monkeys about rural areas around the country. It’s always cost cost cost and return return return. No wonder the UK is lagging behind and is always playing catchup

    • FibreFred

      ” It’s always cost cost cost and return return return.” – The mantra of any private company I would have thought? They aren’t a charity

  8. Glen

    There are actually nearly 5600 exchanges (so the percent is even worse LOL) in the UK other than that you are right they have only enabled a very small number.
    In 10 years our so called “best broadband in Europe” BT and government hogwash will be very funny.

    • Somerset

      The percentage of exchanges does not matter, it’s the number of premises that is important.

      Actually 2069 exchanges, including those with other funding.

  9. Gadget

    Talktalk reach over 90% of UK home with around 2500 exchanges so it can be misleading to look at percentages of exchanges covered.

    • Glen

      Er NO…..

      There are around 33 Million Premises (Homes and Businesses) in the UK.

      Talk Talk cover 24,856,836 premises and 2,720 exchanges
      http://www.samknows.com/broadband/llu/cpw

      Which means they actually cover approx 75% of premises in the UK (75% of 33 Million is 24.75 Million).

      SO nowhere near reaching OVER 90%… FAIL!

    • Gadget

      Err YES

      http://www.talktalktechnology.com/our-network/

      “Our NGN is fully scaled for growth and ready for business
      We cover 89% of the UK population: that’s a massive 40% more coverage than our nearest competitor
      We have our own equipment in over 2000 exchanges across the UK”

    • Gadget

      Oh and the 89% was 2010, the latest annual report http://www.talktalkgroup.com/~/media/Files/T/TalkTalk/pdfs/reports/2012/talktalk-ar12-web-ready-v2.pdf
      states

      “Our NGN now covers 91% of UK homes, operating in 2,508
      exchanges. These exchanges are connected via our own high-speed,
      high capacity all IP national network, enabling us to carry all of our
      customers’ voice and data traffic efficiently and cost effectively.”

    • Glen

      Ah i see you are the type of person that believes a companies own BS rather than factual figures and the laws of mathematics.

    • Gadget

      Samknows is also a company …… and does not have to be accountable in the same way as any company does when putting information into its annual report and accounts.

      The mathematics only manipulates the information at hand, I prefer to trust the information that a company has some obligation to justify, verify and keep up-to-date.

    • Glen

      In that case something is amiss because samknows actually lists more exchanges Talk Talk have a presence in (to the tune of 200+ more)than the information you provided from Talk Talk. Either way factor in the amount of premises in this country and it does not equate to over 90%. If you want to believe what an organisation has to say about its OWN PRODUCT though you blindly go ahead……. The beef product you are eating is also 100% beef just like it says on the box 😉

  10. RD

    How can they keep piping out this we will cover 90% bull? They cannot give FTTC to people connected to the exchange and its actually a huge scandal just how many homes are connected directly to exchange and not fibre cabinet.some of these homes would have a fairly long fibe cable run if they were to give them fttp which they would never do anyways.

    so whats the beef BT? Ofcom dont allow vdsl inside the exchange so how will you reach 90%? you will reach 90% by using exchanges only and leave 40% of people stuck on more expensive non fibe packages like my parents.I spoke to a local bto engineer who told me that there was a redunant cabinet just outside the exchange which could be used again if they wanted by that exchange is not on the list so theres 50% of my town left out haha.

    Scum and thiefs.

    • Gadget

      Not sure where you got your figures from, especially 40% but here’s a link to an article which suggests that exchange only line volumes are very much smaller than that.
      http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5310-signs-of-progress-for-those-with-an-exchange-only-telephone-line.html
      “The number of lines affected across the UK as a whole is unknown, but we believe that perhaps 2% to 5% of all telephone lines may be affected by this problem, the ones within 500m of the exchange generally get reasonable speeds on ADSL and ADSL2+ services, but a good number of clusters of properties built in the last 5 to 10 years, which can be a few kilometer from the exchange and be well under the threshold for the 2 Mbps USC, let alone meeting the superfast broadband target of 30 Mbps or faster. For those properties very close to the exchange, we still hope that a full fibre solution may be feasible, particularly if the surrounding area is offering FTTP based services.”

    • Glen

      “but we believe that perhaps 2% to 5% of all telephone lines may be affected by this problem”

      My god Openreach dont actually know the exact figure???

    • DTMark

      I feel sure I read that about 14% of lines are ‘exchange only’ lines.

      This tends to be higher in city centres.

      It is possible to put a new cabinet directly outside the exchange, or, in the case where a cluster of houses – say, a new development – happens to be on EO lines to put the cabinet in the estate instead, which is necessary if the lines are more than about 1km long.

      However that it is possible doesn’t necessarily mean it will happen.

      So you are correct that without doing some of the EO lines FTTC penetration can’t go above 86% *if* that 14% number is right.

      Then you have “long” and poor quality lines which won’t be able to receive a FTTC service anyway even if the cabinet is enabled, so if enough of those radiate from a particular cabinet it makes it fairly pointless to upgrade it.

    • Glen

      We have already established he believes companies own figures about their own product, even when the laws of mathematics dictate what they are saying is impossible.

      Mind you when it comes to BT (who freely admit they don’t know how many lines are exchange only ones) and Talk Talk who have a habit of being fined by ofcom for spouting fictional blub, it comes as no shock figures from either company are fantasy driven.

      I guess because people like him fall for it, rather than being able to use a calculator is the reason they keep dreaming them up.

    • Ignitionnet

      The 2-5% exchange only was ThinkBroadband’s guess. Openreach know the routing of virtually every line on their network, occasional bad records excepted.

    • Glen

      Highly unlikely when BT pages actually state the percentage “varies” and the company can not even guesstimate a users broadband speed accurately.

    • Ignitionnet

      Do you have links to where Openreach contradict themselves? I’m sure they say it varies. In some dense city exchanges there’ll be a lot of EO lines, in others such as my previous exchange less. There I was less than 150m from the exchange but on a PCP.

  11. Phase 11… could they finish phase 7,8,9 first?

    Sorry but all of you that got excited by getting on the list are in for a bit of a wait. Between EO only exchanges and then the painful sporadic activation of cabinets its a long long wait.

    We are on phase 9a. Cab P13 which is activated a mere 10min walk away we are not connected to neither is anyone else on the entire road its on. P3 which we are connected too is not activated and has been bumped from Nov 2012 to Dec 2012 then Jan 2013 now sometime between now and the end of the year.

    Phase 11. I wouldnt get your hopes up.

  12. RD

    Mate that 5-10% figure is complete bull.I just need to go and look at my area to see how many homes have no cab and i can tell you now that its not far off 40%.In rural area’s BT never had the need for cabinets as the lines are pretty short even if they are of bad quality but it still stands that they enabled 2 cabinets in my whole town out of a population of 2500.

    Do the maths and ask yourself how many lines can be connected to each cabinet.A big city inner area will be in the exact same situation and they are taking money from the goverment without addressing this issue with ofcom.

    I had an email from livingstone’s secretary which stated BT were committed to finding a solution that was over 1 year ago so i moved into an area that has fibre coverage.

    • Ignitionnet

      The spreadsheets I’ve seen say otherwise. The vast majority of the population don’t live in rural areas, they’re urban or in market towns.

      The cabinets aren’t put in because of line length, they’re put in to make the network easier to manage. A high count cable from exchange to cabinet then loads of low count cables from cabinet to distribution point then the individual drops to customer homes rather than having shedloads of connections from individual drops all the way back to the exchange.

      Rural areas where line density is much lower may not have this issue. On longer lines not having a cabinet actually improves performance, no joint in the cable at a cabinet.

  13. Glen

    “Do the maths…”
    We have established and he freely admits he can not do simple maths but would rather just believe any figures that are spoon fed to him by a company trying to peddle their product in the market.

    • Gadget

      Please don’t try to attach errors in your thinking to my statements – I can do maths, I just have issues with the input values you have lifted from samknows.

      Specifically Samknows quotes BTWholesale (http://www.samknows.com/broadband/llu/bt/adsl) as covering 26,650,621 total premises , so if we assume that the same methodology is used for Talktalk count then Samknows(http://www.samknows.com/broadband/llu/cpw) quotes their coverage as 24,856,836 total premises.

      Would you like to do the maths using those figures ? I think the answer is 93.2%

    • Glen

      LOL and that confirms you can not do maths as you are calculating a total percentage of availability based on figures a competitors product is available to rather than the actual amount of premises in the country.
      BTs product is not available to the entire populations premises either, infact samknows has a list of exchanges even ADSL is not available in via BT.

      As i tried to tell you initially…

      There are around 33 MILLION PREMISES (Homes and Businesses) IN THE UK.
      Talk Talk cover 24,856,836 premises and 2,720 exchanges
      http://www.samknows.com/broadband/llu/cpw
      Which means they actually cover approx 75% of premises in the UK (75% of 33 Million is 24.75 Million).

      I do not expect you to be able to do simple maths though, after all the rest of BT can not.

    • Ignitionnet

      Hi CARPETBURN / Truth4Free / Deduction.

      You can’t have it both ways, either Samknows data is accurate, in which case the premises total you give is wrong, or it’s inaccurate, in which case it’s not possible to use it to refute TalkTalk’s claims.

      According to Samknows there are 27 exchanges where there’s no BTWholesale ADSL. Those must be some pretty massive exchanges to account for the missing over 6 million premises.

      That or the Samknows premises data is exactly what it says it is – an estimate.

    • New_Londoner

      @”Glen”
      “There are around 33 MILLION PREMISES (Homes and Businesses) IN THE UK”

      Source please, I understood is was under 29 million in total.

    • Glen

      4.8 Million businesses…
      http://www.bis.gov.uk/assets/biscore/statistics/docs/b/12-92-bpe-2012-stats-release.pdf

      And as for how many households…
      http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/news-and-media/news-releases/electoral-commission-media-centre/news-releases-campaigns/public-information-campaign-launched-for-elections-and-referendum

      AND I QUOTE FROM THAT BEFORE YOU ARGUE…..
      “The Commission is sending out 27.8 million information booklets on the referendum and elections – ONE TO EVERY UK HOUSEHOLD”

      Now i knpow this may be beyond your comprehension but add the occupied figures 27.8 + 4.8 = 32.8 Million there are then a further QUARTER of a million unoccupied homes in the UK (Want me to go find that info from the UK census for you also???) which in total equals 33,050,000 PREMISES in this COUNTRY TOTAL.

      Oh and if you still wish to deny ANY OF THAT INFO thats ok…..

      If we go with your 29 Million figure, that means you still can not add up because 90% which you think Talk Talk is available to of 29 Million equates to 26.1 Million……. Talk Talk is actually available to 24,856,836 premises SO STILL NOT 90% AND MOST DEFINITELY NOT OVER 90%.

      MATHS FAIL AGAIN!

    • New_Londoner

      @Glen
      Useful links – presumably you read the BIS one and noted that over 3.5 million of the 4.8 million businesses had no employees? I’m guessing a fair number have no dedicated premises either, work from home etc. So perhaps my 29 million prmises in total is closer to the mark than your 33 million after all.

      And as for the TalkTalk comments, I’ll leave that to you and the relevant poster to discuss.

    • Gadget

      As Ignitionnet says well sourced figures. And using them you conclude that there are 33.05m premises in the UK – so how come Samknows only makes the figure 24.86m

      ie the BTWholesale coverage plus the samknows premises count for the 27 exchanges where there is no ADSL?

      Could it be that samknows is counting something different or a subset? if so then the count of his premises per exchange underestimates your derived households plus businesses plus unoccupied figure. So the samknows figure for Talktalk coverage is also an underestimate.

      If you want to use the samknows figure for talkttalk coverage because your data doesn’t contain information on which household and businesses and unoccupied dwellings are covered by talktalk then you have to relate it to the total “samknows premises” in his dataset.

    • TheFacts

      Glen/Deduction – Off topic, but do you now understand how FTTC cabinets and FOD fit together. ie. the cabinet is not involved in FOD.

    • TheFacts

      fyi. The TV Licensing database contains almost 30 million home and business addresses.

    • FibreFred

      Oh god don’t start Deduction (and aliases) on FOD he doesn’t understand that one at all, I’ve put him right plenty of times on that subject but when it gets too much in the face of facts he just assumes another alias.

    • ADHD

      ‘As Ignitionnet says well sourced figures. And using them you conclude that there are 33.05m premises in the UK – so how come Samknows only makes the figure 24.86m’

      Where does it say thats the amount of premises in the UK?
      Even BT with ADSL provide to more than 24.86m homes, as seen in BT stats and the links to BT mapping
      http://www.samknows.com/broadband/providers/bt
      I can not even see where Ignitionnet says “Well sourced figures” perhaps you are confused with how many usernames you use as to which one is even saying the nonsense now.

    • TheFacts

      If it helps:

      PAF stands for Postcode Address File and is compiled, updated and supplied by the Royal Mail. Currently PAF has around 28 million delivery points and over 1.7 million postcodes.

    • TheFacts

      Update:

      The Address Management Unit manages Royal Mail’s address datasets, including the Postcode Address File (PAF) – a database of 29m addresses and 1.8m postcodes – Multiple Residence, Not Yet Built and British Forces Post Office Postcode Data. PAF and our address datasets are widely used for database management, data cleansing, address validation, direct mail campaigns, and in rapid addressing software.

  14. Darren

    See this thread and the OPs reply: http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity/EO-lines/td-p/774474

    EO lines getting fttc via newly installed cabinets outside the exchange. It’s cornwall but maybe they will roll it out elsewhere in time.. or maybe they already are.

    I see Wolverhampton has been enabled, it wasn’t due till spring.

    If BT are missing so many people out there should be plenty left for the altnets.

    • Glen

      “If BT are missing so many people out there should be plenty left for the altnets.”

      Given that BTs rollout is supposed to cover 66% (complete and utter daydream) at their own cost and the other 33% is considered rural OR for whatever reason will be allocated some kind of government funding to cover deployment, and the fact BT are the only ones that seem to be left in things like BDUK funding.

      Perhaps you would like to clarify what percentage of that final third once BT have also been funded for parts of it is actually left for altnets?

    • FibreFred

      Deduction, is 10% left for the alnets isn’t it? 60% self funded, up to 90% with additional funding leaving 10% left for the altnets

    • ADHD

      Who is getting the 30% worth of funding to boost it from 60% deployment to 90% deployment?

  15. FibreFred

    So we are now adding ADHD to your alias list?

    Deduction, the master of disguise

    • Kyle

      Deduction has not posted here for months. Your argument was lost the moment you (and lets be honest the majority of the comments are from JUST you) started accusing others of being him. Not the first time you have done that either since the nuisance has been gone. Anyone that disagrees, you seem to think is that person.
      I have no idea what they did to you, but whatever it was i suggest you get over the emotional scar, grow up and get over it.
      Oh and NO im not him either before he suggest otherwise.

    • Ignitionnet

      It’s absolutely obvious it’s him. The aggressive tone, the absolute assurance that he’s correct in the face of events to the contrary, the punctuation, the phrasing, the vocabulary. Banging on about the same things he did as Deduction in the same way, making references to earlier posts by a different alias.

      You don’t have to be a forensic scientist to spot it. He posted in the same manner on TBB, the forums here, and in his earlier incarnations. He sticks out like a sore thumb to be honest.

      Or should I rephrase to ‘you’ stick out like a sore thumb given you’ve the same aggressive writing style, inconsistent use of paragraphing and use of capitals to emphasise your points?

      I should probably email Mark, apparently posting on the same comment thread under 3 separate names is more appropriate on 4Chan than ISPR.

    • Kyle

      If you would like to look through other news items you will see i have posted here for quite some time always with the same name.
      The only person here who is the same individual is You/Telecom engineer/Fibrefred possibly New_Londonder/Thefacts. All of those in the last 24 hours seem to have accused various posters of being someone who has clearly seriously upset you in the past. I suggest you grow up and get a life rather than sitting in front of your computer all day. You lot (or rather single individual) must post on this site more than anyone, its almost every news item. Even Deduction when he was here did not post that often. Pretty sad and pathetic you have nothing better to do with your life. Oh and no that is not meant to be aggressive that is a clear observation to anyone. I like Glen will not be adding anything further to this news item, you are not worth it.

    • FibreFred

      Good, don’t forget to tell the rest of the persona’s 😉

  16. Bob

    What is interesting is how so many medium size exchanges in large towns & cities are not on the commercial rollout (7000 lines plus)

    One has to wonder what criteria BT use. Sure cost of instaling cabinets can vary a bit but other than in expecpptional circumstances not a lot

    It will also be interesting to see if claw back actually does kick in with the BDUK rollout as what is Non Commercial is not a fixed thing. Costs can fall with the equipment and improved techniquies for rolling it out can reduce costs. THe biggest diffference though comes from take up and that is steadilly increasing

    • Ignitionnet

      Bob – the size of the exchange doesn’t actually matter that much. A 7000 line exchange with 40 cabinets and insufficient fibre count back to a headend will be far less attractive than a 500 line exchange with 2 cabinets and fibre count available.

      Some cabinets even if each and every customer on them takes the service aren’t going to be viable. Likewise some others the claw back will inevitably kick in as uptake well exceeds expectations.

      BT unfortunately have to apply the same model to everything, too many cabinets to mess with variables too much. They do make some mistakes however with this as I was all too aware with Hunslet cabinet 82, as featured in the story here.

  17. Ignitionnet

    The man returns, the comment threads get larger, and their SNR drops precipitously.

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