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Openreach Delays Launch of 160Mbps and 330Mbps FTTP Product Tiers

Wednesday, September 13th, 2017 (2:53 pm) - Score 1,935
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Openreach (BT) has confirmed that the launch of their new 160Mbps (30Mbps up) and 330Mbps (50Mbps up) product tiers for Fibre-to-the-Premise (FTTP) broadband lines, which will mirror the new G.fast tiers, is being delayed by one month because “further deployment testing is required.”

The new tiers had been due to go live this month but they will now be delayed until 16th October 2017, which won’t make a huge difference and if anything it may be beneficial because we’re expecting the first commercial residential G.fast packages on those same speed tiers to be launched by a number of ISPs around the October-November window.

Openreach’s current +vat wholesale pricing for the new tiers has been pasted below, including their special 12 month discount for the 330Mbps option. As usual these are the costs that they charge ISPs, which come before providers have added their own costs for service delivery, VAT (20%), profit margins, data capacity and other bits in order to create the product you buy.

Variants

Connection Price

FTTP Transition Rental

(per month)

FTTP Data Rental

(per month)

FTTP Data + FVA Rental

(per month)

New pricing

FTTP 160 / 30

£92

£12.75

£21.14

£21.39

Special offer -FTTP 330 / 50

£92

£17

£25.39

£25.64

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16 Responses
  1. Eccles

    “has confirmed that they the launch of their new 160Mbps”…missed a bit 🙂

  2. Gfast is the new Gslow! This is just unbelievable backward step with all that really really REALLY expensive copper technology again. All they need to do is install a £20 fiber modem and rate limit at the other end inside the router with features that already exist in all modern routers. They did this already when I oversee a 10gbit line install. So why all this really expensive copper drama with low speed links to push up costs by a factor of x100? And why rate limit upload speed anyway? It slows down gaming, and it slows down social media uploads. If you got a whole family, then it becomes a nightmare to do anything reasonable compared to say Hyperoptic or B4RN with their symmetric 1gbit links that come in at a much lower net cost even though companies like B4RN are cabling up rural areas and delivering working services to more than 20,000 customers. About 3% of UK have 1gbit already. So everyone should be copying their build models and deploying these cheap £20 fiber modem solutions instead of all this wasted copper equipment that only pushes up costs.

    • It'stooearly

      Back in the real world…..

    • CarlT

      Upload speeds do not slow gaming to any noticeable degree. You’re talking microseconds of difference given the packet sizes.

      G.fast is not more expensive than FTTP as an overbuild technology, only as a greenfield, new build technology, which is why BT offer FTTP to new builds.

      Hyperoptic’s costs are lower as they are almost entirely FTTB. The final drop is nearly always copper. No modem at all.

      B4RN do not have 20,000 customers, and even with their deployment model, heavy community involvement, no wayleave, shares in lieu of pavement, their cost per premises passed is far higher than G.fast FTTC.

      The cost of the modem isn’t really that big of a deal when spending 10 times as much to pass the property.

      I would love FTTP. I’m too far from the cabinet to benefit from G.fast. Have to use evidence-based arguments to make the case though.

    • GNewton

      @Joe M: G.Fast is cheaper to deploy in areas that have FTTC with final copper wire drops to the end premises. Having said that, the way G.Fast is done in this country doesn’t make much sense, as it is mostly cabinet based, hence it will only be suitable for very short lines. But these already enjoy full 80Mbps speeds from existing VDSL services, hence market demands will be very slow. Also, in many areas there already much faster products available from Virgin Media. As a whole, BT is going the wrong route again!

    • TheFacts

      @GN – is the only other route full FTTP?

    • AndyH

      @ GNewton

      “the way G.Fast is done in this country doesn’t make much sense, as it is mostly cabinet based, hence it will only be suitable for very short lines.”

      So 10 million people are on very short lines?

      Why does it not make sense? It’s being deployed the same way in France, Germany, Switzerland.

      “But these already enjoy full 80Mbps speeds from existing VDSL services, hence market demands will be very slow. Also, in many areas there already much faster products available from Virgin Media. As a whole, BT is going the wrong route again!”

      It’s being sold as a premium product, not an upgrade that everyone will take.

      Interesting you think BT is going the wrong route. What would your plans be to deploy ultrafast speeds to over 10 million people within 2 years?

    • GNewton

      @AndyH: G.Fast in Germany is not deployed the same way as in the UK. For example, the Huawei and M-net cooperation for the deployment of G.Fast uses a solution based upon reusing existing in-house cable infrastructure that will be adopted to a faster 500 Mbit/s to 1 Gbit/s ultra-high broadband access based on fiber to the building (FTTB).

      I am surprised that there is no outcry from BT shareholders like Steve Jones. You’d want to invest in areas with a higher ROI, not in areas with low demands.

    • Marty

      It’s sounds mad but FTTP doesn’t really exist here (unless you live in Irby or Frankby)so I welcome G.fast. As long is what they offer is above the 200mbps threshold after interference etc it’s fine by me.

  3. Joe

    GFast might be cabinet based now but may well be built out later to cover those properties that can’t get high speeds. Gfast from the cabinet is plenty fast enough more most users

  4. The owner of the industrial site where the 10gbit went in owns half the properties including the streets and is entitled to cable up all his clients. The 10gbit service provider was suggesting we became resellers. All we need to do is use one sfp socket for each client. We lay the fiber and fit the £20 fiber modem and rate limit each port – its just a software setting. In this scenario, there is no Gfast or Gslow copper anywhere. We need to shell out $1500 for a six axis fusion splicer. But that is nothing compared to the revenue we may earn. In actuality, the 10gbit is for servers, but the idea has sparked the thought we could procure second 10gbit line and become reseller as it would be very profitable given current prices the tenants were paying for their low speed links. Also I understand the 10gbit line we ordered goes on to a 40gbit backbone – and it is simply rate limited – i.e. its all just software settings inside the router. The fiber is directly coming from the exchange. Each fusion splice adds less than 0.1 db loss and takes less then 5 minutes to do with modern fusion splicers. You would have to be more than 20km away to want to need a repeater. So there is no electronics between the exchange sfp module and sfp module in the cabinet.

    • MikeW

      The answer, Joe M, is that most of the cost comes from getting the fibre into the street. The second highest portion comes from getting the fibre in the street into the home/business.

      A “5 minute” fusion splice only gets to be that quick once all the fibre is present. While you focus on the cost of the modem and an SFP, you’ve missed most of the money.

      Like a bird in hand being worth two in the bush, copper’s advantage is that it is already there.

    • New_Londoner

      @MikeW
      Agreed. Labour costs, in particular civics, are often overlooked by technologists but can easily outweigh the tech cost.

    • New_Londoner

      Civils not civics!

  5. Brett Baker

    Is there any update of the new FTTP tiers yet?

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