Campaign Forces Openreach to Remove Fibre Poles in Fife Village
Residents in the large Fife (Scotland, UK) village of East Wemyss have succeeded in petitioning Openreach (BT) to remove several of its recently deployed telegraph poles. The poles were built to help bring full fibre (FTTP) broadband to the area, but locals found them “obtrusive” and feared the value of their homes might suffer.
We should point out that Openreach’s local project is part of their wider work to deploy a new Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) broadband ISP network to cover 6,400 premises in and around the Leven area. The village of East Wemyss is home to a population of roughly 2,000 and only 5 of the poles being deployed in this area, within a specific part of the village, are impacted by today’s news.
According to The Courier, some of the village’s residents felt as if the poles, one of which had been deployed right outside somebody’s window, had “spoiled what is a beautiful little village“. In response, the residents got together and signed a joint petition that called upon Openreach to reconsider.
Sometimes the cost of going underground would simply be too high for a build to be viable, which is where poles come in. Such poles are typically built using Permitted Development (PD) rights, which means they don’t have to go through the usual planning process and can pop up quite quickly, often without residents getting much of a say, which adds to the frustrations of those who oppose them.
The good news, at least for those with a concern, is that the network operator has agreed to remove the poles.
A Spokesperson for Openreach said:
“Wherever we can, we use our existing duct and pole network to avoid digging and disruption. But in order to be able to include some properties in the upgrade, we may need to put up new poles or carry out roadworks.
In this case we’ve had several complaints from the local community about five new poles – and we’ve listened to residents’ views and sympathise. Last week we arranged to have the five poles removed, and the work [has now taken place].”
Openreach added that they’d now go “back to the drawing board” to consider how to move forward with the broadband upgrade for the area, which, as we’ve said above, may be difficult unless they can find an economically viable solution. The cost of going underground may simply be too expensive and if that is the case then locals may have to wait years longer, until the government’s Project Gigabit scheme gets into gear for Scotland.
Sadly, poles have a tendency to divide public opinion when they’re erected (examples here, here, here, here and here) and, as a result, they remain one of the least loved pieces of modern broadband and phone infrastructure (not unlike mobile masts).
However, poles are also a very common sight across much of the UK, and plenty of people would be more than happy to accept their deployment if it meant gaining access to a full fibre network. Likewise, there seems to be no shortage of studies claiming to show how the provision of faster broadband tends to result in house values going up, rather than down. So far as we can tell, the wide use of poles has not stopped UK house prices from rising.
In 2021 we asked 657 of our readers whether they would accept poles to get FTTP, if the alternative meant having to wait years longer for the service, and 71% said they’d take the poles. A few months ago we asked 400 readers if, when looking to buy a new house, the existence of poles in the street outside to carry fibre would be a major negative factor in their decision and 77% said no. But clearly plenty of people do still have a negative perception of them, particularly those who hail from areas where poles have not previously been used.
Some residents will always welcome the rejection of new infrastructure work, particularly when it relates to the deployment of poles, but others who want it end up being punished by those who cannot yet see the future benefits. By comparison, deploying new trenches is a significantly slower and much more disruptive / expensive type of civil engineering, which can create all sorts of different problems for residents (e.g. noise, road disruption, restrictions to property access, safety etc.). But the latter does have the advantage of building a much more discreet network.
Mark is a professional technology writer, IT consultant and computer engineer from Dorset (England), he also founded ISPreview in 1999 and enjoys analysing the latest telecoms and broadband developments. Find me on X (Twitter), Mastodon, Facebook and Linkedin.
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Pardon me for saying this, but normally the value of homes tends to increase if you have good broadband?
Or maybe I’m missing something? Im guessing these might be close to retiree people making these complaints?
The power of NIMBYs
Not everyone puts the Internet over and above everything else, and if you have a street or village that doesn’t have telegraph poles and are used to that, if they arrive later they will annoy some or many people, especially if placed outside of their window!
Presumably everyone has a telephone line in that village already and those were deployed without needing telegraph poles, showing it is possible for there to be no need for adding poles. It is also crazy that modern infrastructure is being installed using decades old telegraph poles which are not as robust or as maintenance free as putting it underground in ducting, and this is chosen even for new installations.
This will die to the cost of installation, also those who had FTTP no longer have it now.
@Phil Yes, people may have a telephone service but often that service is carried by armoured cables buried direct into the ground that were laid when the houses were built.
When considering to build underground to conform with legislation, each service in the pavement must be a set distance from the other services.
If the pavements aren’t wide enough where will this duct go as no duct currently exists?
How will each resident feel when their garden/driveway needs to be dug up to duct to their property?
I moved into a house recently with overhead powerlines & telephone lines, didn’t make me or my wife change our mind about buying the house, when you look at a house you accept it for how it is or move on.
The house had a really well done drive and I was concerned that digging it up for FTTP would wreck it, so I was glad when Jurassic Fibre said they’d be running the fibre via the pole.
You know full well that these people complaining would increase the costs by thousands to get their driveways looking “as good as before” during a fibre install.
@Michael. The issue is these people didn’t move into a home with telegraphs poles, they came later when they had no choice. Imagine if you had the opposite frame of mind, and choose a house that didn’t have loads of overhead wires and poles dotted about the street, then they came and stuck a load of poles and infrastructure on your street.
People need to realise that everyone is entitled to an opinion and not everyone is interested in having the fastest Internet possible at the expense of street furniture everywhere.
@Some are never happy Why should anywhere pay for ducting, especially when their current cables are underground? Isn’t the whole point of replacing aging old cooper oxidizing on rain and wind swept wooden poles, to get a more robust and less maintenance required replacement network? With the weather only getting worse and high winds more of a regular occurrence, the more we put safe underground the better for everyone, or haven’t we learnt anything from the problems caused by high winds this last winter. Not only will the network be more robust by getting it underground, it’s also easier and saver for engineers to work on. The only reason poles are used is to maximise profit in the very short term.
they can have an “opinion” all they want, but by forcing that opinion onto others then consequences will result. I would hope that resources are now being diverted into more profitable and more thankful customers.
Underground wiring isn’t all that amazing, fibre is certainly more water resistant but it’s much more prone to being hit by a digger, ducts collapse, and it is clearly more work to add new cables to a duct vs being able to string from pole to pole, and not everyone likes having their driveway dug up to get it into the house. Besides, it costs much more as well.
@Ivor yes they can have an opinion and it would seem the majority were against the poles. As for drives being dug up, then those who wish *not* to have their drive dug up don’t get it forced on them with no choice as they simply don’t take the service.
Too many people don’t care about their local environment, we know that. Perhaps if more people got off their devices and lifted their heads they might notice the beauty of these sorts of villages and appreciate the effort that some local people go to keeping it that way.
If the director or high up managers at Openreach lived in that village you’d bet they would not be putting up extra poles. This is about saving money at the expense of people enjoying their homes and local area. Telegraph poles are dated technology, they should be being removed as part of the telecoms infrastructure modernisation program, not new ones being added, that just makes no sense.
All for allowing villagers to choose how they’d like the infrastructure to be delivered – as long as they pay for the additional costs that come with underground work or accept that it will delay or cancel any investment in their area. We’ve heard it all with mobile masts, the same people who whinged about proposals & got them cancelled then whinged because their phone didn’t work.
I don’t buy the stuff about “beautiful villages” and all that. I happen to live in one too. There are poles on both sides of the road (one side’s BT, the other electricity). It does not bother me in the slightest that my copper line, and at some point fibre too, is overhead. Just as it doesn’t bother me that there are wind farms nearby, or new homes, or a brand new bypass being built (I quite like that one since it means no more lorries thundering past my house at all hours).
NIMBYism (and in particular the idea that people can dictate what others do with their property, eg new homes) is a massive curse on this country. If we’re talking about “beauty”, what about the houses these people live in, aren’t they a blight on the environment too (and more so than a little telegraph pole?)
@Ivor people dictate what we do all the time, we have laws that stop us doing things, we have governments that dictate what taxes we pay and what services we receive, or do you just ignore all these things, don’t pay taxes and don’t follow the law of land because the government was not who you voted for and you don’t agree with it? Why get so upset when an individual or small collective wins against a big faceless corporation?
Whether you buy the idea of beautiful villages or not doesn’t matter, your view of the world isn’t everyone elses. Clearly Openreach felt the placement of the poles were not acceptable having listened to the complaint and have removed them, it is as simple as that. These companies will try to get away with doing the absolute minimum they can regardless of any detriment to anyone else, its why we have building regulations and planning in the first place because companies can’t be trusted to reach a minimum level of quality or show any consideration for people already living in the area. Kudos to anyone that takes these companies on rather than just sit back and let it happen.
there is simply no comparison between a government and a noisy minority pressure group.
Openreach probably capitulated because someone made the calculation that it’s not worth the extra cost to serve a literal handful of people in the way the NIMBYs desire – just move on and build out to those who have better things to do than to moan about a telegraph pole. And when the local councillor/MP/MSP pulls them up for a lack of good broadband in the area, they now have all the evidence they need to explain why.
You’re making it sound as if Openreach were planning to build an international airport or a landfill right next to them, not a couple of wooden poles. “wins against a big faceless corporation” indeed.
Arguably we *don’t* have a planning system that maintains standards. It is enormously effective at allowing NIMBYs to dictate to others (“got mine screw you”), but where it matters – building standards – it’s beyond useless, as the Grenfell families could tell you.
ivor
what will happen is that the cost of undergrounding will be horrific the premise will get left in six months time – the residents will complain (forgetting to advise who they complain to they they objected to the poles) – i clearly remember one mp who wrote on behalf of resident complaining about why they got not superfast broadband when about 6 months earlier hed complained that “ugly” poles has been put up and could they be taken down
How to move on? Put an X by the village and move on, if they want full fibre they can pay for ducting.
Quite right. If the village is “pretty” why have monstrous poles erected and cables strewn spoiling it.
Openreach obviously agreed with them too and hence the removal. Only sounds like a small amount of trenching needing instead as few poles. It’s the community not outsiders that matter. Not all are net junkies needing a fibre fix over anything else.
As a result, they’ll get a better solution that isn’t an eyesore.
Or they may end up with no fibre upgrade for a long time. You roll the dice and hope for the best, but be carefull what you wish for.
Openreach seemed to have said stuff you, stick with what you got for years then.
Nothing wrong with poles, what would they do if they had electric pylons going up?
Small amount of trenching ….. NO.
The case here will be trenching need down streets and also front gardens or driveways needing to be dug up.
Quite simply Openreach will just consider the area no longer viable and scrap the plans.
Oh well, no FTTP for these ungrateful lot then
Openreach did not agree at all, they are REQUIRED to remove new poles if enough people object, plain and simple.
Its also not about people needing the fastest broadband, its also about cost and reliability.
If they are able to service the majority of the village without these poles (not really mentioned in the article), why should they continue to pay the huge cost of maintaining the copper and exchange equipment for these few people?
Hopefully most of the village can be done and these customers are left to foot a dramatically increased bill to cover their antiquated technology, that sooner or later there will no longer be replacement parts for to keep it running.
I’m gonna go to a cold dark room and cry about people complaining the have FTTP.
I’ve always wondered why there couldn’t be an agreement made to use lamp posts instead of poles. You see things clamped on to them in high streets (Christmas lights etc). Couldn’t they use them for fibre as well?
There are much larger loads from heavy telephone wires to multiple properties, which lamp posts are not designed for.
Anyway, the same applies to lamp posts. I was recently in a village (Peasmarsh) which has no street lights, despite having an ‘A’ road going through the middle, and there are campaign posters all around opposing their installation. “Keep our skies clear!” or words to that effect.
Typical, the picture in the Courier (linked above) shows a window with a view of a lamppost.
Usual moaning old lady type.
The term “telegraph pole” is so dated, conjuring up the idea of a clerk tapping out messages in Morse – “telecom pole” more apt for the 21st century IMO.
and if I ran Openreach I’d be shifting them straight to the very back of the queue and make it very clear to the local press that they are not the reason why the residents have sub-par internet. Maybe stick a nice banner explaing it on the local telephone exchange.
I second that, did the nimbys ever thought there might be a reason for Openreach to use the poles instead of digging up the road etc?
Maybe openreach could use horizontal drilling to cheaply do it underground?
Horizontal drilling is not cheap.
It also requires both a launch pit and an arrival pit, either side of the span.
It’s obviously also no good for delivery to homes. Where poles and existing duct are impossible Openreach build microduct and swept tees. This moves the build cost to at least £500 per premises passed if they are all close together and £1k+ if they are more distant.
They’ll only complain about the mismatched tarmac after all the trenches have been dug up.
They will just have to pay for services such as Starlink instead.
Looking at street view there does appear to be existing Openreach ducts on that estate, it’s all underground apart from one solitary pole on the green next to the seafront & close to the copper cabinet (I assume they have FTTC with decent speeds given the proximity of that cab).
I hope she’s sorted the render on the side of her house, it looks like a right eyesore for her neighbours.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.1596704,-3.0631452,3a,75y,130.59h,70.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sItqRl2MOxAucfo2fbWNV8g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Maybe after her recent victory she should campaign to get rid of those street lamps obscuring her view 🙂
Yup, no polls in that village at all… https://www.google.com/maps/@56.1559929,-3.07089,3a,25y,325.52h,93.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKx32P8TrBIPs0hJZYPNZtQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
As I followed the links to Streetview, i was expecting the most charming, typically British village. What I actually see is somewhat different. All that nasty pebbledash and render – how was that ever aloud? FTTP can surely only increase property values.
I mean when you see the cars blocking the pavement or the haphazardly placed temporary fencing, you do sympathise with her & realise why she had to stop Openreach spoiling this natural beauty.
Personally I’d have gladly accepted better internet and walked 100 metres down to the sea front when I wanted to gawp at it unfettered by all those street lights and cars, but that’s just me
GMap images are 13 years old.. need an update!
Cab looks like a CATV of that decade, it’s not a BTO DSLAM, it may just be a PCP. Anyone local do you know or can check on operators there?
For context and comment; I live in an area where FIVE Alt Nets each have plans to trench their own light into Microbore, individually, to properties over the next 18 Months – any sane person (street surveyors) would see that it is not physically possible into the ‘pavements’ therein. However, there is serious venture money involved and I presume ‘marketeers’ have identified good take up prospects… Perhaps these companies may all get swallowed up by the 8 Billion Cityfibre have secured in funding, but that’s not the point.
My point? OFCOM should have sorted the ducting/servicing question two decades back and forced BTO into a national infrastructure regeneration plan, so that all newcomers could share the national ducting to provide competitive services, obviously also on new builds, but no.. they actually have let and continue to let national housebuilders install bespoke ducting services where you can ONLY buy services through the housebuilders ISP.. despite claims they would let this happen some 12 months ago, they have still to have let a single other provider in (freedom disclosure to a national paper, as yet unpublished)
That is the tragedy here, not because probably a close community of people got together to stop a load of cables over their heads and poles in their street..
@OFCOM the PCP is on the seafront a few metres away here:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@56.1595829,-3.0622913,3a,40.8y,159.06h,81.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjfNkAUJ1442BaOUJg7-YBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Note the large pole close to it on the left.
FYI, the PCP is located on the High Road, near Byrt’s Wynd
Wouldn’t an actual infrastructure plan be to have a fibre version of LLU? Everyone gets point to point fibre, then they can have that fibre re-patched to the provider of their choice. Since it’s just glass there’s complete flexibility on type of technology, a business that needs a PtP leased line can have it in days rather than weeks.
Digging up the roads continuously serves no one, nor does a middleman who doesn’t itself operate telecoms networks but simply owns ducts for others to do so. We have that nonsense in energy, so called “independent DNOs” in new build estates who own the bit between your house and the street
@BigCol Oh dear the little Englanders are out again. That nasty pebble dash (its roughcast not pebble dash for the record) and render as you out it is firstly still extremely common in Scotland even in new builds. Second in that particular part of Fife it would be considered highly desirable. Move a bit further east to say Crail and well it would practically get you a grade C listing. Architectural fashions/styles are not the same in Scotland than the rest of the U.K. and to assume they are is ignorance personified.
I would note that my sister in a posh village in Northumberland with direct burried cables, got notified that an altnet is trenching her street starting next week. Telegraph poles are about greed and maximizing short term profits over building robust essential infrastructure.
These are the people holding this country back.
Underground networks are a far better solution and also more reliable!
Overhead is far more reliable sir
Total agree Phil, Well done in your fight. It can be sole destroying seeing place you love being tarnished this way. Most the times the poles get put up without any warning or consultation to the residents. There possibly could have been acceptable route or solution. That’s the real issue here Bt have been given to much power and they abuse it by not carefully considering the residents. There seems to be lot arrogance & ignorance comments on here.
Expect an altnet to turn and install poles…
@The Facts in the posh village in Northumberland my sister lives in an altnet has turned up before Openreach and are busy trenching.
Just scrap “permitted development” in the case of telcos and oblige them to get proper planning permission. If the local councils refuse, then they will have to answer to electors who are denied decent connections as a result.
This. Bigcols in this tread commented on how was ugly render allowed, yet permitted development allows Openreach do do whatever they want.
Openreach are a private company, not state owned, permitted development to do whatever you want regardless of local opinion or planning processes isnt reasonable.
BigCol is an ignorant twit who thinks architectural styles are the same all over the U.K. I live in Fife and that sort of building finish is first really really common especially on the east coast of Scotland and on the Forth of Forth coast is super super common, I would gestimate at least 80% of housing stock is roughcast. Its sort of a fishing village style that is considered highly desirable.
Totally disagree. Local councillors are elected (regardless of party, by about one third of the electorate). That third appears to be mostly elderly Nimbys. These Nimbys have been wrecking the economy for years.
Permitted development helps stop this nonsense. Certainly in my area hundreds objected to green Broadband cabinets here, luckily they only stopped a couple being placed, and the others went ahead. Shame Permitted development isn’t allowed here too, we could of got decent mobile coverage by now instead of the constant stalemate.
Hopefully openreach doesn’t go back to this village to reinstall FTTP via ducts.
I bet these are the same people that moan about a lack of jobs and opportunity compared to city’s yet object wen they plan to build anything that would provide jobs
then they complain when the internet is bad
I bet over 70% of people on here would “take the poles instead”!
We need fibre!
Yes I’m still waiting I think it’s the houseing association haven’t given the green light as they jumped over us know my luck they propley skipped it as they dident give promisson I get 1gbps through virgin so I can just wait till thay scrap the coaxl but that could take up to 2027
Scotland and Scottish people, need anyone say more 🙁
Had a look on Google maps, and I think I’ve found the road where the picture in the courier was taken. It doesn’t look very beautiful to me, the properties look plain and the view isn’t that nice either. Probably a handful of properties affected, so I don’t see where the story is.
EE and H3G are in the process of installing a 20m lattice mast in a field near my house, but the planning application shows it 150 Metres away from where they’re installing it, without any amendments on the planning portal. The original site involved filling in a pond, so it’s possibly a victory for the Great Crested Newt.
I live in a road with poles for BT lines and Virgin coming via ducts. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and poles with wiring spanning in all directions can be something one’s eyes get accustomed too. However if one has a choice of with or without, and no in between, then I can’t imagine anyone would want with.
Ducts should be part of the equation in ALL fibre builds and if this is something BT cannot justify across the board, then enter a dedicated ducts provider who sells tenancy to fibre suppliers. I believe one such company already exists in the UK.
Oh God isn’t it pathetic. I guarantee those residents will complain about their poor broadband speeds too. And I doubt anyone but them are snobby enough to worry about telegraph poles affecting house prices, even more so when it’s been proven fibre to your door can increase your house value.
The poles are probably worth more than the properties.
The houses from what I can see on the mainstream are served by 35Mbps VDSL. Better than what most rural areas get but still lacking as far as futureproofing goes. They’re still selling ADSL on the buckhaven exchange averaging at about 2.5Mbps. All that that complaining about the poles? There are plenty of houses served by drop wires in that area anyway and most of the properties are covered in roughcast pebbledash anyway. Definitely not as high, mighty or scenic as the locals want to make out
*mainstreet not mainstream
So these’few’ nimbies have cut off their nose to spite their face. I bet all off them either want faster speeds, or in the space of the next few years when they shuffle off this mortal coil because they must be dinasours, their families will be kicking off at the lower sale value and how their ancestors chose to be able to see the sycamore in next doors garden over the 21st century. People like this are the reason this country is in the absolute shambles of a state it is!
I would really like an emoji option on comments on this site. My would be worn out
To all the opinionated comments about NIMBYS etc. The community that lived there got together and complained AND Openreach agreed. That’s all that matters.
The poles were probably obstructing the view of the sea or over the grass verges. Probably moved there partly because of the view, that’s usual for a place beside the sea. A number may already have fast enough internet for their needs too so it doesn’t trounce everything else.
no need to speculate, we have street view that tells us what’s what. There are existing poles “blocking” the sea view, presumably Openreach’s, and lamp posts too. The area is not exactly an AONB (though I live near one and strangely enough no one complained about FTTP being delivered to their area overhead – it’s a huge step up from sub 1 meg ADSL).
So I think the NIMBY comments are justified.
Honestly I hope they rip it all out and they have to live with dial up for the next 10 years.
Backwards selfish inviduvuals
Hopefully BT move on and don’t come back.
In 2yrs time the same nimbys will be in the press again complaining of poor Internet connectivity…
It’s pretty unusual for Openreach to turn around and remove them unless there were strong and valid reasons to do so. So probably the right decision.
I have both a telegraph poll and a street light very close to my window, I get more pleasure looking at those than from looking through mayfair or playboy
One pole here, nothing on it since it went up three years ago as part of a fibre first deployment, but no FTTC, no FTTP, atrocious underground direct bury & part ducted copper. Regular faults, openreach taking months ‘to fix’ grass verges regularly disrupted.
But according to openreach the area is ‘live’ for fibre. Lies, damn lies, and premises truly passed.
Just wonder if it would be suitable as fuel for winter, creosote impregnated suggests not.
Typical eco warrior boomer mentality.
As long as THEY have a house to live in and a car to drive its ok but sod everyone else. They complain, cry and scream like a little children until they get their own way.
I feel for those households that have now lost a FTTP connection. Progress in the roll out of infrastructure is falling way behind because of these selfish people.
Or people like you enforcing your mentality because its important to YOU.
The community spoke and Openreach agreed. The latter is HIGHLY unusual due to cost and project plan.
Perhaps sea view and unspoilt grass verges is more important than internet as they already have a certain lifestyle why they moved there probably. Plus they may already be happy with their internet speed; they may have FTTC or 4G/5G. If BT Openreach delay, then an ALTNET will prob come along. BT were already doing it so they must have seen some revenue from there so may not abandon for long.
See point proven. Typical boomer.
Wa wa wa, Me me me.
Why not consider the needs of the local community and the wider implications this will cause to the local economy for once instead of yourself.
This decision could potentially wipe thousands of the value of peoples homes because wa wa wa sea veaws wa wa wa.
Hi,
1st post so go easy
I am planning a similar village for FTTP at the moment in my roll.The trouble being caused by a couple of bad mouthed, ignorant people is amazing. There is a community desperate for this fantastic product and a product that makes me proud to deliver to said villages to transform their experience, increase their house value and hopefully give a lot of people more choices about life/ work balance.
There is a mix of all age groups in this village that cannot wait until we deliver.
The community, by law, get 28 days notice to raise a complaint and I can tell you that all these will be addressed.
We try and come to an agreement where possible regarding pole positions and invariably are looking for an agreed outcome.
There will always be people that will never be happy in any walk of life so sometimes you have to bite the bullet and crack on.
Why spoil it..
Regarding the underground possibilities, Where possible it would be utilised but obviously cost is a big consideration when planning delivery.
People don’t realise that it’s not a simple case of digging the main roads and ducting. The cost of completing all this type of work can be so expensive that the build costs would just blow the budget and the village will be dismissed.
We try and deliver in cost, on time, and with as little disruption possible.
You can only hope
Just out of curiosity I had Openreach engineers out in April because I had a problem with the cables coming from outside into the house. Anyway had it fixed before April I had Constant internet connection dropouts it caused the dynamic line management to kick in with the Constant dropping out it meant I had wait of maximum of 64 days for my line to improve any day now. But my question is with my line now been stable for or 66 days now I just a drop today 29th July 11:20pm. Does that drop out would mean my speed will increase with me restarting the connection after 64 days of stability. And I would like the symptoms of DLM improving.
Hold on a minute. So you cannot object to planning applications. On the grounds of lights or looks, but these people can deny everyone else good connections? If I lived there and was told I’d have to pay thousands to get a good connection thanks to my neighbours I’d take my neighbours to court. Why on earth would you object to a wooden pole and a few thin wires? I have the electricity and phone connections for three or four houses nailed to the front of kine and I get zero recompense for it (even though it’s caused rot and I’ve spent thousands repairing it). What issue does a wooden pole cause? These people should be overruled in this case, food connections are becoming critical to the modern world irrespective of you actually want one or not.
@Bobby Nails you have a good point I bet those people complaining don’t know how to use a PC.
Just go on Google street view and see that all over the world overhead lines are the preferred method for installing everything not just communications. Even go to any street in Tokyo, Seoul, or San Francisco, some of the wealthiest and highly developed places on the planet and you will see a complete mess of overhead lines.
If residents here don’t want them, that’s fine, but don’t expect everyone else to pay for an expensive underground install.