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ISP TalkTalk UK Prep New 500Mbps PowerLine and WiFi Adapters

Monday, March 4th, 2013 (2:29 pm) - Score 10,765

Budget ISP TalkTalk looks set to begin offering a special branded version of DLink’s latest DHP-W311AV PowerLine adapters to its Plus TV (YouView) based home broadband customers in the not too distant future. The new kit is able to both extend your wifi network and convert a buildings electrical cable into a faster wired network.

At present customers who take the Plus TV package are also offered a choice of two PowerLine kits (they come in pairs), one with a pass-through socket for other plugs (£50) and one without (£35). Customers whom elect to have one of the providers BrightSparks engineers install their TV and broadband service can also ask them to setup the adapters.

Unfortunately TalkTalk’s existing adapters appear to be based off an older and significantly slower variant of the HomePlug standard, while the latest kit supports HomePlug AV for local network speeds of up to 500Mbps (Megabits per second); in reality you should probably expect real-performance of around 40-100Mbps (highly variable). On top of that they can also be used to extend or deliver an N spec wifi wireless network.

The new adapters have been in trial for the past month and TalkTalk claims to have been “delighted with the overall results“.

A Spokesperson for TalkTalk-Labs said:

The improvements we’ve seen in Wireless speed, range and signal speed has been significant. Also, we’ve seen a noticeable uplift in Powerline wired performance against our current PLA’s.

We’ve fed all the information and suggestions to improve it before we release the product to the Product Management and Marketing teams.”

At present no official launch date has been announced and if history is anything to go by then the new adapters, which separately retail for around £60, will in the not too distant future probably slip almost unnoticed into TalkTalk’s online shop.

The new adapters, which are needed in order to better support the faster connectivity being delivered via TalkTalk’s latest superfast broadband (FTTC) packages (i.e. some home networks are struggling to keep pace), measure 90 x 65 x 50 mm (3.54 x 2.56 x 1.97 inches) in size and when active they will eat just 6 watts of power.

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  1. Avatar Mike says:

    OMG! Another piece of crap to cause massive illegal radio interference across the spectrum! These devices should actually NOT be on the market because they don’t meet EMC standards and should not have the EC mark on them!

    1. Avatar Anoyed tax payer says:

      I’ve always used homeplugs since they were launched and I’ve never had any problems with my radios or Tvs. I’ve even checker with my neighbours and they have had no problems either.

      So I don’t know why people keep trolling on this subject.

    2. Avatar Annoyed Taxpayer says:

      I’ve just bought homeplugs and I now have a lot of problems with my radios and TVs. Ny neighbours seem to be causing me problems too.

      So I know exactly why people keep trolling on this subject.

    3. Avatar john says:

      Yes i agree they are the worst things out there for broad band interference .They slow your internet connection anyway and cause interference right across the HF spectrum as well as digital radio .Load of junk just use cat 5 cable stop polluting the air ways with this crap.

  2. Avatar Ray Stevens says:

    I had a neighbour using these damned power line network adapters, and they completely destroyed my radio reception for over a year until I fonally found out OfCom can get them removed if you complain (I did). Why these PLA things are still being allowed onto the market is anyone’s guess, since it’s now well established they break every law regarding interference to other apparatus with inteference thousands of times above legally permitted levels. If TalkTalk decide to supply these things, they’ll join BT as an ex-ISP of mine, and I’ll recommend others avoid them too.

  3. Avatar Eric m0hff says:

    Please – not more radio-jamming junk. These things, whether called PLA, PLT, or homeplugs, wipe out all radio between 3 and 30 Megahertz, and some extend right up into the airbands at up to 130 Mhz, thus endangering Air Traffic Control and airport communications, as well as general Emergency services such as the Fire, Police, and Ambulances, for as far as half a mile around the offending object.
    They also blot out DAB radio reception. So if your expensive DAB suddenly stopped working, or keeps giving you massive drop-out messages, a neighbour has plugged these things in. On a regular short-wave radio, you hear a horrible burbling noise that totally obscures everything.

  4. Avatar Gary says:

    These are the very devices which caused enough concerned radio amateurs AND PROFESSSIONALS to form a group called UKQRM, which has drawn the attention of all concerned to the amount of interference caused by these and other devices of a similar nature. What they do is radiate radio signals along ther entire length of the mains cable which they use as a line to transmit data to various locations. This effectively knocks out radio signals at adjacent locations, in some cases for up to5 to 800 yards around their location. They are ILLEGAL as they act as transmitters and cause interference to LEGALLY transmitted signals. They have intereferd with DAB abnd VHF radio. How these people can sell them beats me. Anyone buying them had best be prepared for some grief from neighbours who WILL be affected. Regards, Gary

  5. Avatar Keith says:

    Here we go again.
    More junk, and not just junk that hams have been (rightly) moaning about, these will clobber your DAB, VHF-FM local taxi firm, local flying club, just about everything.

    Be prepared for a knock on the door from OFCOM if you decide to use one, assuming the electromagnetic field they generate in you house wiring doesen’t fry your brains first.

    Time for people to start dumping TalkTalk as an ISP then

  6. Avatar Terry says:

    Ah. The penny’s dropped. That’s why my DAB radios started to get severe dropouts. I dug out an old shortwave tranny radio and all I can hear is that horrible burbling racket wherever I tune it to.

    Thanks, neighbours! That’s what I call friendly! Not!

  7. Avatar Dave Barton says:

    Oh no, not more rubbish to cause harmfull interference to our radio spectrum, there is enough out there already causing problems to DAB and short wave.

    Dave (SWL)

  8. Avatar Mike says:

    Please no more PLA/PLT. As stated above they transmit illegally in the short wave band causing interference. This contravenes the EMC Directive of the EU –

    The EMC Directive first limits electromagnetic emissions of equipment in order to ensure that, when used as intended, SUCH EQUIPMENT DOES NOT DISTURB RADIO AND TELECOMMUNICATION AS WELL AS OTHER EQUIPMENT.

    PLA/PLT DOES disturb radio and telecommunication equipment – hence the setting up of UKQRM

    Mike

  9. Avatar Alan says:

    For those who doubt the impact of these (illegal) devices, visit http://www.ban-plt.co.uk/ for the fuller story.

    To avoid upsetting your neighbours and getting a visit from OFCOM, simply run a length of Cat5/6 cable – job done.

    1. Avatar FibreFred says:

      Do Ofcom do home visits? Do they drive around in vans sniffing out homeplug users?

  10. Avatar Keith G4MIU says:

    PLT is a botch.

    Do the job properly and hard wire Cat5 cable as already stated.
    The world does not need any more of these polluting devices.

  11. Avatar Huw says:

    I would ask

    “Anoyed tax payer”

    Who said…

    “I’ve always used homeplugs since they were launched and I’ve never had any problems with my radios or Tvs. I’ve even checker with my neighbours and they have had no problems either.”

    Would they remove those devices if a neighbour complained about interference?

    And also said by them “So I don’t know why people keep trolling on this subject.”

    You are lucky, unlike a lot of radio listeners.

  12. Avatar New_Londoner says:

    I have some homeplugs and DAB radios located close to them, both work fine without a problem.

    1. Avatar Keith says:

      Not this type you haven’t

  13. Mark Jackson Mark Jackson says:

    I used to have some modern HomePlug AV’s from DLink plugged in and they didn’t appear to impact either my ADSL (probably because the power cables here don’t cross with the copper phone line) or DAB.

    We also saw no problems with any speakers or other potentially affected devices (note: this was only a very basic check – not with proper tools). On the other hand I know somebody with some of the pre-HomePlug AV kit (best avoided) that does cause issues for his DAB radio.

    Aside from the difference in standards I’d also suggest that some manufacturers put more effort into tackling interference than others. If it causes a problem then take the adapter back and avoid all the older 85Mbps or even some 200Mbps kit.

    What’s needed is for somebody to do a clear benchmark of each product in order to display the issue in a way that consumers can quantify. Sadly we don’t have the budget to test all of them but it’s a good idea, one that might help to reveal the real differences and problems.

  14. Avatar Vinnie says:

    Short and brief.

    Have had the chance to test these particular adapters and they cause no issues what so ever. They are Full N so are Wifi certified and very little noise comes from these adapters. What can you expect from a powerline adapter pushing large amounts of data down your power cables.
    I remember a similar issues going wayyy back several years now of people using certain CB equipment with arials over a certain length yadda yadda.

    Some cordless phones interfere with 2.4Ghz wireless routers/devices. Has done for years but very little complaining goes on.

    I think it’s a great idea to have second to that of a wireless range extender.

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