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BT Openreach List Next 82 UK Exchanges for FTTP on Demand

Tuesday, December 17th, 2013 (3:16 pm) - Score 10,338

As promised BTOpenreach has today unveiled the next batch of telephone exchange upgrades for the FTTP on Demand (FoD / FTTPoD) service, which makes their “ultra-fast” 330Mbps (30Mbps uploads) capable fibre optic broadband product available via FTTC capable lines.

The service, which is currently still in its Early Market Deployment (EMD) phase, should this month became available from another 82 exchanges (i.e. a total of 142 by the end of December 2013) and Openreach then plans to upgrade another 161 by the end of March 2014 (i.e. taking the total to 303 exchanges and “passing” around 4.7 million premises).

But the term “passing” has a slightly different meaning for FoD because in order to get the service Openreach has to physically build the new fibre optic connectivity out to each individual home or office, which can attract a huge installation cost that could run into thousands of pounds.

At present the one-off installation fee is £500 +vat but additional construction charges are the real killer, especially if you live further away from the local NGA Aggregation Nodes. Essentially, how much you pay depends upon whether or not you live near to one of these nodes. The long lead times and contracts also do little to help matters.

The 82 New FoD Exchanges for Q4 2013
Chorlton – Central England
Denton – Central England
Didsbury – Central England
Macclesfield – Central England
Stockport – Central England
Bishops Stortford – East of England
Boreham – East of England
Epping – East of England
Stansted – East of England
Cockfield Green – East of England
Manchester East – Central England
Moss Side – Central England
Rusholme – Central England
Hartest – East of England
Hawkedon – East of England
Bowes Park – London
Bushey Heath – London
Chorleywood – London
Clapton – London
Colindale – London
Crouch End – London
Edgware – London
Elstree – London
Finchley – London
Harefield – London
Harrow – London
Hatch End – London
Hendon – London
Highams Park – London
Kenton Road – London
Kingsbury – London
Mill Hill – London
New Southgate – London
North Edgware – London
North Finchley – London
North Wembley – London
Northwood – London
Pinner – London
Radlett – London
Rickmansworth – London
Ruislip – London
Stanmore – London
Uxbridge – London
Walthamstow – London
Braintree – East of England
Broomfield – East of England
Chelmsford – East of England
Kings Langley – London
Muswell Hill Crouch End – London
Stamford Hill – London
Tottenham – London
Burghfield Common – South West
Caversham – South West
Earley – South West
Henley On Thames – South West
Hungerford – South West
Newbury – South West
Reading Central – South West
Reading South – South West
Spencers Wood – South West
Tadley – South West
Thatcham – South West
Tilehurst – South West
Wallingford – South West
Woodley; Berkshire – South West
Aylesbury – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Headington – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Oxford – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Summertown – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Abingdon – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Banbury – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Bicester – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Blewbury – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Blunsdon – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Brackley – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Deddington – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Didcot – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Highworth – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Kidlington – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Rowstock – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Wantage – Wales & Northern Home Counties
Wendover – Wales & Northern Home Counties

The progress is good but FoD’s high price prevents it from attracting much residential interest and even business ISPs don’t quite know what to do with it (here). On the other hand FoD is still being rolled out under EMD and mass market products tend to only emerge once the full commercial launch has begun.

As it stands today you’d struggle to find any ISPs offering a FoD service and that doesn’t look set to change for a while. It might give BT the ability to say that full fibre optic connections are available (assuming the deployment can ever truly match national FTTC availability) but at the current price there won’t be many takers.

As a side note, Fibre Voice Access (FVA) has also been under EMD for a couple of years and we’re still waiting to see a real product, which is perhaps due to the lack of interest from BT in making a native FTTP service available to more than a few hundred thousand premises.

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48 Responses
  1. Slow Somerset

    Once again nowhere In the West Country proper, does any one care about this part of the Country apart from when they want to go on Holiday. Would it not be better to use the Labour and time speeding up the BDUK Projects so people who have Rubbish Connections and Slow speeds can be moved Into the 21st Century, Instead of speeding up already fast Connections, just Wondering ?. I expect there will be some on here who disagree.

    • Ignitionnet

      Umm surely that there’s nowhere in the ‘West Country proper’ implies that, rather than using the resources there for FTTPoD, there’s a focus on using them for BDUK projects?

  2. Ignitionnet

    Err why’d Deddington on there as an FTTPoD exchange given it’s supposed to be the first Fibre-Only Exchange?

    Was the FOX pilot cancelled?

  3. CrazyLazy

    Is there a list of ISPs actually selling this FTTPoD product? Apart from the obvious astronomical install charges id like to see what competition has to offer with regards to the monthly sub price.

    • Hi CrazyLazy,

      Fluidata and our partners using the Fluidata SEP Platform provide FFFToD. If you want to drop me an email then I can happily look at what providers might suit you.

      Thanks

      Michael

    • CrazyLazy

      Im after more of a list of ISP with actual published prices (preferably already on their website) see i can shop around and compare. Thank you for the kind offer though.

  4. FibreFred

    Great stuff , good to see progress on this product that according to some was consigned to the bin.

  5. ????ahhh

    All this for high speed shopping channel the best days of the internet are long gone

  6. bob

    Zero in Scotland :/

    • FibreFred

      For now… it’ll come I’m sure

    • Kits

      That could be because there is a vote coming if Scotland should be independent. If that happens no doubt there will be the Scottish currency which like all other countries would need to be worked out to how many for the GBP.

    • Ignitionnet

      Scotland have already said they’d want to keep the pound and the Bank of England as lender of last resort.

      There would be way bigger things on BT’s mind than FTTPoD if that were the case, and it wouldn’t stop any business activities. Companies didn’t overnight stop everything for months / years on end during the transition in the Eurozone.

    • CrazyLazy

      “Scotland have already said they’d want to keep the pound and the Bank of England as lender of last resort.”

      Really i thought they had not even voted on independence yet, let alone anything like that.

    • Ignitionnet

      That isn’t a part of the referendum, and I’d recommend reading the SNP’s document on their vision for Scotland. It involves the pound, and therefore the Bank of England.

  7. Phil

    Who need 330/30? Who care? As for 80/20 is fine for the next 10 years!

    • FibreFred

      Exactly, I don’t max out my FTTC, I can’t see me needing this for years

    • Bob2002

      @FibreFred –

      Is he saying nobody needs fibre at 330/30, but that 80/20 fibre might be more appealing? Or is he saying nobody needs FTTP when FTTC is available?

    • 80/20 FTTC is good but most people don’t actually get 80/20 speeds. I can see a situation where a wealthy person that gets around 2-8Mbps (general example) over their FTTC line might go the whole hog for a super-expensive FoD setup to hit 300Mbps+.

    • FibreFred

      Not sure Bob. I read it as happy with FTTC

    • GNewton

      Remember Bill Gates saying “Nobody needs more than 640K” years ago, in the early days of PCs?

      Seriously, FTTC is a woefully inadequate solution for many businesses, and FTTPoD could have had a chance to fill in a gap for offering services to many small to medium sized businesses, though of course as usual BT messed it all up again:

      1) Only available in a few FTTC areas
      2) Extremely long contract terms, nobody in the right frame of mind embarks a 3 year contract
      3) It still often makes more sense to move business premises elsewhere where better telecom services are available, rather than paying for an over-priced FTToD service in a rural town.

    • FibreFred

      “Seriously, FTTC is a woefully inadequate solution for many businesses”

      Any links and sources to back-up that broad brush statement? Is that the voice of the UK or a minority voice?

      As for your other points

      1) 4.7 Million prems by March 2014, a few? lol
      2) Needed to recoup ROI
      3) Rubbish

    • GNewton

      FibreFred, can’t stand it when posters have different opinions? Calling other views rubbish? That makes you look like a BT troll!

    • JNeuhoff

      “move business premises elsewhere where better telecom services are available”

      That’s why sites like ‘rightmove.co.uk’, the UK largest real estate website, now show details of available fibre-based broadband services for potential buyers.

    • FibreFred

      I can stand it, I’d just like some evidence to back up your usual guff

    • FibreFred

      “That’s why sites like ‘rightmove.co.uk’, the UK largest real estate website, now show details of available fibre-based broadband services for potential buyers.”

      That is indeed a fact.

      I’d like some evidence to represent point 3) but don’t expect to get any because the majority of your posts are baseless ramblings and don’t reflect reality in any shape or form.

    • JNeuhoff

      FibreFred, no offense, but you have just re-enforced your reputation of a troll here!

    • FibreFred

      I’m not offended, once again you fail to back-up what you’ve posted with any facts. Maybe you should look into the definition of trolling 🙂

    • @phil @Fibre fred

      on 3) Creaters of Call of Duty moved to avoid an attempt to charge £12k private circuit charge sold as a substitute for fixing broadband on a line served direct from the exchange.

      You may not sell, but you would not extend a lease. I can provide an increasing list of the latter as I suspect the estate agent finding the need to highlight the connectivity available.

    • CrazyLazy

      Interesting how the Fred troll wants everyone to prove what they are saying but they seem to think they can spout whatever deranged thoughts come in to their head.

  8. dragoneast

    Hmm, how well does this correlate with localities identified in Local Plans for significant new development where there’s an incentive? Nothing wrong, just the way it works (and assuming backhaul is available, so not possible everywhere).

  9. Hi,

    Since when was Didcot in Wales?

    Why lump Wales in with the Home Counties?

    Very Strange! 🙂

    Regards

    Simon

  10. Phil

    330/30 could kill off 80/20 congestion.

  11. Phil

    Look careful with this exchange lists (many exchanges are from oxford)

  12. Gerarda

    Cockfield Green is an interesting one. Very rural and cannot get infinity, so presumably must be getting fibre direct from the exchange. Conspiracy theorists might surmise a senior BT exec lives there.

  13. Michael

    I imagine that BT will want to continue rolling out FTTPoD slowly so that it does not canibalise their EAD fibre revenues from business customers too quickly.

    Groupimg of Wales and Northern Home Counties looks like a solution to the question of “is FTTPoD available across England & Wales” which might be asked in certain fora. Nothing to do with real geography or relevant facts.

  14. Note the NAO idenified in Table 11 P33 of their report a proportion for FTTP. I think if you extended the table based on the average of £28,900 for a cabinet there was an additional £19,000 for FTTP FOD works for each and every cabinet/path. There was no further itemisation. All rural cabinets and FTTP FOD by 2017 ? BT confirmed those costs to the NAO in a 70 page follow up after a leak of the NAO’s draft report.

    Openreach do need to publish some white papers to idustry on this subject. As originally described it was going to be re-using some of 24 fibres serving the FTTC cabinet available from a pit adjacent to the cabinet.

    Once you get to final 32 customers (actually taking service) you might as well go direct to FTTP.

    FTTP FOD I hope means it gets to a manifold on the final DP. If ofcom got its act together we could alter the costs recovery on the final drop element of the copper loop (£17 of the £87pa) to include an upgrade to fibre or a hybrid. Amazingly the drop wire has only a life of 10 years, so we do a great deal.

    • Phil

      No one will sign up to FTTPoD because of costy installation charge and also were put off by long length of minimum term contract is 36 months.

    • @Phil As it stands your correct. This is why we need to get the white papers published and more transparency.
      There are significant costs allocated to FTTP enablement in the rual programme.

      Herein is the challenge for Openreach, LRIC for fibre access is less than copper so how can you expect to pay more.

    • Gadget

      Are we in a place yet where anyone could justify the “long” in LRIC?

  15. cyberdoyle

    Fibre fred is half right, most people near a cabinet will be happy enough on ‘upto’ 80 meg and won’t want FOD. The ones who will need it are a lot further away from the cabs and with excess construction charges will never be able to afford it. Its all a big con. All that is happening is the digital divide is growing ever wider. Funding that was meant to bridge that divide is just making some go a bit faster and extending the life of an obsolete network. Bring on the fibre, moral and optic.

  16. Kmb376

    We are getting so frustrated in waiting for FTTC to appear…
    So my local exchange THBG is listed as being upgrade to the latest fibre broadband service. Great if we actually get it!
    We have been promised fibre broadband date for the past 18 months on month by month dates… with no such service appearing….
    Does the selection into the latest fibre service generation have to mean a further delay in FTTC?? We have the cabinets, etc.. just no fibre service at all.

    Can anyone explain what is so difficult in proving 80/20 fibre services.

  17. Thomas Bach

    Hi am so annoyed,

    Akeley Wood School is literally next door to me and they have FTTC lines connected to them. Their speeds are up to 25mbps!. Why not connect us?

  18. Nick D

    Oh god – has no one taught you how to link.

    You do not use the word ‘here’ – you link from the descriptive text – this is SEO & semantic web 101.

    Look it up.

  19. Robert C

    Fibre optic is a symmetric medium, so why the asymmetric speed? FTTP providers in other countries generally provide 100/100 (or faster) since that’s the native speed of a cheap fibre optic interface.

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