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North Yorkshire UK Confirm Funding for 100% BT Fibre Broadband Cover

Wednesday, March 19th, 2014 (1:17 pm) - Score 1,092

The state aid supported Superfast North Yorkshire project in England, which is working with BT to make “fibre broadband” (FTTC/P) services available to 90% of local premises by the end of October 2014, has formally approved another £10m to boost the network’s coverage up to their target of 100% by the end of 2017.

According to the North Yorkshire County Council, some £3m will come from the Government’s Broadband Delivery UK office, with another £3m from the council, £2m from the European Regional Development Fund and as expected BT will also contribute a further £2m to help the project achieve its aims.

Carl Les, Deputy Leader of the County Council, said:

This is a massive step forward in our aim to establish high-speed broadband accessibility for 100% of North Yorkshire by the end of 2017. With this extra funding, we will be able to penetrate to the more remote parts of our very rural county, to communities and businesses which hitherto had little hope of reaping the advantages and rewards of high-speed internet access.

Access to high-speed broadband is vitally important to the economic prosperity of the county, and this new funding means we will be able to ensure that it is virtually universally accessible. Further funding is available and will be released once the impact of this latest £8m has been assessed.”

It’s notable that the words “virtually universally accessible” are used to describe the roll-out of faster broadband connectivity and that further funding will be made available to achieve the 100% target, albeit only after the impact of their current allocation has been assessed.

ISPreview.co.uk notes that North Yorkshire was recently allocated an extra £4.6 million for the project by BDUK, which after today’s announcement means that another £1.6 million is still technically available for match-funding with the council, BT and others in the future (here).

As part of the update it’s also noted that almost 400 FTTC cabinets across the county have been upgraded or installed since the schemes launch last year and new street cabinets are apparently being added at the rate of more than 25 every month. At the start of last year BT estimated that it would need to upgrade 700 street cabinets in the county, thus bringing their FTTC/P network to a total of 365,000 local premises.

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  1. Avatar DTMark says:

    So, at the end of 2017, what will the performance look like?

    100% at 2Mbps + (via what technologies?)
    90% at 30Mbps + (via what technologies?)

    This is talking about a fibre rollout, but there’s no mention of performance other than a vague mention of “high speed broadband”.

    Would seem rather important when assessing the end result against the objectives and level of spend.

    1. Avatar FibreFred says:

      It says 100% using FTTC/P so its not going to be 2Mbps. As always speed will depend on line length, quality etc

    2. Avatar No clue says:

      2Mbps and up (or +) is exactly what FTTC guarantees so DTMark is 100% correct.

    3. Avatar FibreFred says:


      This is what I was referring to:-


      Less than 15Mbps on FTTC is considered a fault so they can’t provide 2Mbps on FTTC unless its some special 2Mbps FTTC package that I’m not aware of?

    4. Avatar DTMark says:

      Hmmm – just came across this:


      How will they fix the 160 houses with faults?

      Put in more cabinets, replace the aluminium with copper or (gasp) fibre…

    5. Mark Jackson Mark Jackson says:

      FibreFred, that article was written in 2012 but I’ll add a little update to it now because the FTTC Handbook has changed since then so that 2Mbps is now considered a minimum instead of 5Mbps.

    6. Avatar FibreFred says:

      Thanks Mark that is good to know.

      Surely there must be some split though as DTMark says, they should split it out for this area to say X% > 30Mbps Superfast, X% < 30Mbps not Superfast.

      There's no point saying we are deploying superfast tech if it doesn't deliver the superfast speeds

    7. Avatar DTMark says:

      All the properties in this village have line faults too.


      However, as was confirmed, none of those faults will be repaired – the network will remain in a faulty state.

    8. Mark Jackson Mark Jackson says:

      Yes there will be a split but getting councils and BT to agree the release of what that is tends to be rather tricky.

    9. Avatar New_Londoner says:

      Where is the evidence of these “faults”, let alone that none will be repaired?


    10. Avatar No clue says:

      Thank you for that FTTC minimum speed clarification, saves another 20 page argument with him.

    11. Avatar JNeuhoff says:

      “Where is the evidence of these “faults”, let alone that none will be repaired?”

      Why do you care? Doesn’t make any difference to your being heavily financially involved in BT, does it? It’s only a small village.

  2. Avatar Steve Jones says:

    It would be better if they described the target in terms of what BDUK define superfast NGA to be (24mbps or better) which probably equates to lines no more than 1.2km long. After that, either FTTP or installing fibre-to-the-node would be required.

    If they can truly achieve 100% >=24mbps (give or take the odd remote shepherds hut), then it’s pretty impressive for the money. If, however, many of those connections are FTTC with mid-range ADSL type speeds, then that’s not so good.

    So what’s the 24mbps coverage?

  3. Avatar Matthew Williams says:

    True enough if are going manage 100% at superfast speeds that would be a good accomplishment.

  4. Avatar desouzr says:

    The title suggests that 100% coverage will be provided by FTTC/P. Have NYCC released a statement confirming this i.e 100% fixed line as opposed to some fixed wireless superfast coverage?

  5. Avatar Unknown101 says:

    BT will probably be banking on vectoring to help the 100% coverage of 24mb> for everyone. Especially if the results are due for the trials any minute now then by 2017 all the cabinets for this location will probably have correct hardware installed.

    1. Avatar No clue says:

      Vectoring will not help long lines. Though im sure people have been over that with you before also.

  6. Avatar MikeW says:

    Note that “Superfast North Yorkshire” haven’t actually announced funding for 100% coverage.

    This story repeats the rather vague “goal” of 100% by 2017 that the council has always had – but there has been no further allocation of funds, or any extra plans made.

    What *has* happened is that the council have been given another progress report on phase 1, along with a slightly more detailed plan for phase 2.

    The phase 2 funds were given to SFNY in October 2013. On 29th october, the council approved allocation of £3m, which allowed them to accept £3m from BDUK and £2m from ERDF. The council approved the money back then, but did not approve that it should be spent with BT. Stories are on here somewhere.

    The new event this week is that SFNY has reported more progress to NYCC, and has put forward a tentative plan to spend the money with BT; it remains tentative because it depends on the trial of FTTRN. The council approved this tentative plan.

    The tentative plan still only targets 90% or so with superfast speeds. The tranche-2 cash is still needed to go deeper.

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