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Virgin Media UK Sue Durham Council Over Fibre Optic Rollout Costs UPDATE

Monday, June 11th, 2018 (7:42 am) - Score 7,620
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Cable broadband ISP Virgin Media has taken the unusual decision to sue Durham County Council (England) in the hope that doing so will enable them to lay new fibre optic cable along grass verges and without having to pay “hefty” fees per metre. The case will test the recently revised Electronic Communications Code (ECC).

At present Virgin Media are deep into their £3bn Project Lightning expansion, which is working to extend their Hybrid Fibre Coax (HFC) and Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) based EuroDOCSIS ultrafast broadband and TV network to an additional 4 million premises by around the end of 2019 (possibly 2020). Once completed it should extend their UK coverage to roughly 60% of premises (1.2 million premises have already been reached).

Meanwhile the revised ECC, which formed part of the 2017 Digital Economy Act, has been designed to make it easier and cheaper for mobile and broadband operators’ to deploy new infrastructure (masts, cables etc.) on public or private land (details). On top of that it should now be possible for telecoms firms to reach rental agreements that would see them paying about the same as utility providers (gas, water etc.), who often pay less.

This law will now face its first test in Durham. Last year Virgin Media announced that an extra 16,000 homes and businesses in the county would be the next in line for their deployment, which was due to complete by the end of 2019. Unfortunately the operator claims that the council’s fees for land access have effectively put up a “broadband blockade” that is “holding [their] rollout to ransom.”

Virgin told ISPreview.co.uk that the local build was “initially smooth with good support from the Council“. However, the rollout hit an impasse at the beginning of 2018 when the Council wanted to charge to access grass verges that run alongside public pathways. This is needed so that they can lay fibre optic cables while minimising any disruption caused to residents.

Tom Mockridge, CEO of Virgin Media, said:

“We are disappointed to be taking this action against a Council with whom we initially had a good working relationship. By demanding money for land access Durham County Council is now putting up a broadband blockade to thousands of homes and businesses across the county.

This significant planned investment by Virgin Media will boost the local economy and provide consumers with a real alternative to BT’s Openreach network. With Virgin Media offering speeds 13 times faster than the local average, holding this fibre rollout to ransom over land fees risks leaving areas of Durham in the broadband slow lane.

Durham has no basis for imposing any kind of a land levy in these circumstances and its attitude runs counter to that we have faced from more forward-thinking councils. … It’s time rhetoric was put into action to truly break down the barriers to building broadband.”

The operator also hinted that this issue goes wider than Durham and that “haggling over land access” was slowing down the broadband rollout and thus deterring investment. Tom also noted that challenges like this are creating an “impediment” to the Government and Ofcom’s ambition to both increase the availability of fibre optic infrastructure and network competition to BT.

Unfortunately Durham Council has not yet responded to Virgin Media’s attempt to “break down the barriers to building broadband” and so we don’t have their side of the story, which might have helped to provide some useful context. Some of Virgin’s contractors have not exactly built the best reputation of late (here) and so it’s possible that Durham may have sought a safety-net via charges.

One key principle behind the ECC is that no-one should be unreasonably denied access to an electronic communications network. The ECC envisages parties reaching an agreement for rights of access over land. However, in the absence of such agreement, there is a provision to allow for such rights to be imposed by the Upper Tribunal (Lands Chamber). Virgin Media will now seek these rights to be imposed by the Tribunal.

The Upper Tribunal will balance the impact of installation to the landowner against the benefit to the end user of the services being installed – in this case the residents of County Durham.

UPDATE 9:16am

The response from Durham Council’s press office email contact leaves much to be desired (the only other press contact is by snail mail): “The recipient’s mailbox is full and can’t accept messages now.”

UPDATE 5:04pm

We finally have a comment from the council.

Stuart Timmiss, Head of Planning at Durham Council, said:

“We are extremely disappointed that Virgin Media has decided to take this course of action as we were under the impression we had a good constructive dialogue and that we were awaiting further information that we had requested from them.

Many meetings have been held over recent months, mostly to deal with the poor performance by Virgin Media in our communities. Earlier this year, we took the unusual step of serving the company with an improvement notice due to a significant number of complaints received from residents on the streets in which they were operating. This included poor reinstatement that is yet to be resolved, drives being blocked over long periods of time as well as damage to property. Virgin has been proactive in resolving these issues having terminated their contracts with contractors on site. However, these issues are not uncommon and we are not the only local authority who has been forced to take such action.

Having said that, the roll out of superfast broadband across our county is very important to us and we will continue to work with all providers in finding the best way to achieve this. Our work through the Digital Durham programme is rolling out fibre based broadband right across the county ensuring all households have access to superfast broadband. Providers such as Virgin Media only provide broadband services to certain areas within the county which they deem to be commercially viable.”

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Mark Jackson
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13 Responses
  1. Joe

    Good! Councils are very good at moaning about BB but too many of them are charging rediculous prices for the access that they say they want for their residents.

    Personally I’d rather the Gov went the full way and made public grass verges zero charge for access.

    • un4h731x0rp3r0m

      Agree entirely. Councils have become nothing more than cash milkers to feed their own pockets. If they are not charging people like ISPs for ‘access’ rights, many of them are ripping off the public with littering fines and other such nonsense.

    • Joe

      Littering is a bit different – it costs the councils money to clean up. It costs the council nothing if a fibre cable is or isn’t buried in a verge!

    • Meadmodj

      If the council is charging this access as a revenue opportunity then that is wrong. However if it is based on a history of poor reinstatements then it is justified. Digging down and then simply raking out thick sub soil and stones when finished isn’t good enough.

    • Joe

      Thats an argument for following up the reinstatement and enforcing it (with due common sense) not to charge on the chance the work is done badly!

    • Meadmodj

      Yes I agree but VM have form (elsewhere on ISPreview) and poor reinstatement issues may not appear for some time. I have personally reported three VM hazards to my local council in the last month. It must cost the council in admin alone. VM need to take more interest in the quality of their sub contractors.

    • A Builder

      @Meadmodj

      I’m no lover of VM but this seems crazy behaviour by the Council if this is a proper pure fibre network going in.

      The risk side can be dealt with by a rolling release bond that covers reinstatement quality and defects.

      The contractor buys the bond And the value of the bond unrolls (reduces) as greater and greater areas are signed off as being accepted back as at quality after a set period of months. The bonds are readily available and used against standard construction works completed in sections.

      Then it is simply a matter of assessing if sections fall below certain preset criteria for QA. The mechanism often allows for independent binding assessment of claims or parcels of claims.

      Obviously the less claims there are the cheaper the bonds are for the contractors so it is in their interests to fix things before mechanisms are triggered.

      In fairness to the Council and the Councillors they do have a legal duty to ‘protect’ public assets and to ‘secure value’, a vague term that induces fear in the hearts of council officials and councillor alike.

      But I am sure there are better ways than this to secure the councils position whilst enabling much needed investment to proceed apace.

    • Meadmodj

      Then we will have to await the outcome of the case and Durham’s justification for their charges.

    • un4h731x0rp3r0m

      “Littering is a bit different – it costs the councils money to clean up. It costs the council nothing if a fibre cable is or isn’t buried in a verge!”

      No its not part of your council tax is supposed to be for keeping the streets clean, not fining people more money to do the job you already paid for.

  2. John

    Good on the council. VM don’t care about anyone, they do just enough to keep you quiet and when that doesn’t work they sue you. Pathetic. I wouldn’t take a VM product if it was the only thing avaialable.

    Constant re digging to unblock the ducts they just laid and then again to repair shodding reinstatement. It’s a wonder any council allows them anywhere near a spade at all!

    • John

      Oh and then there’s the other utilities following them around fixing the trail of devistation. Water, gas and BT lines all effected around here.

  3. John

    Installing a vm broadband its not for the low mind of council its for the future generation, they just want free back poket money for work
    People whum moan keep moaning but next generation will be better off

  4. un4h731x0rp3r0m

    I think we get it you do not like a company… No need for you to multi post barely intelligible drool over and over AGAIN

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