Internet providers that have adopted Openreach’s new Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) based 330Mbps (50Mbps upload) product at wholesale will be pleased to learn that the operator has extended their current monthly rental discount until 31st March 2019, although not all ISPs have passed the savings on to end-users.
The 330/50 FTTP tier was introduced last year to match the top headline rate of the operator’s fastest G.fast product and it was soon followed by a significant discount, which was first launched on 1st October 2017 (here). The offer was only due to be available for a period of 12 months but it’s now been extended into the new year (NOTE: FVA = Fibre Voice Access | PM = Per Month).
Connection Fee | FTTP Transition Rental Price (pm) | FTTP Data Rental Price (pm) | FTTP Data + FVA Rental Price (pm) | |
Offer Price | £92 | £17.00 | £25.39 | £25.64 |
Standard Price | £92 | £29.61 | £38 | £38.25 |
As usual these are the costs that Openreach charges ISPs and they will of course still need to add their own costs for service delivery, such as VAT (20%), profit margins, data capacity and other bits in order to create the product that people go out and buy.
It’s confusing as to what you will end up paying with FTTP. I’ve considered it. However, I’m tempted to wait with Virgin for their DOCSIS 3.1 (whenever that may appear) as I’ll get better bandwidth and comparable latency.
Overall, I’d prefer to be with BT but I don’t really fancy forking out some of the ridiculous amounts of money it costs to get the fibre to your home.
And the g.fast seems to be a postcode lottery – we don’t have it but our old house 1/2 mail away does. different exchange unfortunately.
Not sure I would even if it did as it would take a lot of Virgin messing up for that to happen, their service right now it faultless. But having the choice of more than 1 high speed provider would be nice in case.
I usually grumble at a price rise but this time around I can’t find a single reason to – as the speed is 380mbps + 24/7 However when it gets to about £60 a month I will look again and see where they are and what’s also available.
Can you advise who actually provides FTTP services? We can get FTTP but all the prices are very expensive and it doesn’t look like these prices have been passed on at all. BT want £60/pm for the 330/50 package, whereas I can get 200 from Virgin for £37/pm.
Zen also do it but they’re even more expensive. Is there anyone else who is actually competitive? Don’t really want to go with Virgin but might have to
BT Superfast Fibre Essential (FTTP 40 Meg) is only £29.99 per month with a free Amazon Echo (whatever that is!) thrown in. I’m afraid if you want higher speeds then you will have to pay accordingly. There’s no way on earth you will get BT 300 Mbps for 30 quid a month.
Virgin do the 350 speed with at least 21mbps upload speed(upload is only for people uploading videos to the internet like youtubers) for £50 a month and £20 setup fee. If you want the speed even if you don’t want phone or tv you will be paying at least £30 with £20 line rental which they have to legally include in the price to reduce all the customer confusion, hence £50.
John – where is this mystical package you speak of? are you saying 21mbps is the guaranteed minimum?
Or are you just talking about a bundle with phone which is more expensive than stand alone right now? I get around 19mbps up anyway
Happy with Beeline Broadband supplying rural areas in North Yorkshire speeds ten times better than BT and a fraction of the cost
That’s great – I am sure there are people in france enjoying 10 times what you have for 10 euros a month – but do we really need to go there?
I know 2 people who get 1Gbps both ways in Gloucestershire for free – all for word of mouth
Can somebody explain why openreach haven’t increase capacity of there FTTP tier to a high speed as with Altnets and Virgin media with there Hybrid Fibre coax cable? Is it a question of cost? Kit in the ground needing to be updated? or the latter taking to long to react to the other providers offering up to 1gbps=940mbps
330 competes with virgin (and imo is better in the real world due to VM congestion). The altnets are not really competition for OR. There is nothing technically stopping them offering higher speeds. There may be some minor capacity changes but nothing major. There are some issues about protecting their leased lines but mostly isn’t just lack of real demand.
“(and imo is better in the real world due to VM congestion).”
Well i your area yes and luckily you have an alternative – but I can’t argue here – sine they did the upgrades to get 350 there has been none of this congestion you speak of -they can cope now.
Never slows down – even at evenings and weekends.
384 is the baseline for me. but i’ve seen my connection go over 400mbps when testing – it always settles at this.
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/39916312
Bt, what a waste of time. Lie, scam and customer service atrocious, stay well away
Thanks for your input on the Openreach news article
They’re all the same, if you want good service find a company that bundles utilities together, we use utility warehouse, they supply us with everything – phone, mobile, internet, gas, water, electricity. Not only does it work out cheaper in the long run, you get good service because their providers bend over backwards for them because they want to keep the contract.
For example, we get internet from utility warehouse who get it from talktalk, if we ever have a problem (vary rare) we just phone utility warehouse and they deal with all the bullshit from talktalk. The only thing you don’t get is the “for the first 3 months” deals, you’re told how much it’s gonna cost and you pay it every month, nothing more, nothing less.
@Mrmoo232
Fine if you’re happy with their choice of suppliers. Personally I wouldn’t touch TalkTalk given its history of cyber security issues but we all have our own criteria when it comes to purchase decisions.
Utility Warehouse?
Ewwwwwwwww!
Tend to agree. BT are the only website from the main suppliers that promise FTTC to my address then change it to standard broadband when you actually go to order it.
All the other sites, including Openreach tell me FTTC to my local cabinet is available but there is no availability for FTTC for me.
Appalling situation where lack of decent speeds impacts my ability to work from home and therefore adds to road pollution and congestion.
“50Mbps upload” Stick that in your pipe and smoke it VM!
I’d pay £80/Month for this but alas it’s not available. VM FTTP is but the upload is ony 20Mbps so they can swivel.
I’d love 50 meg upload. Would be great for those of us that use PLEX.
Entertainement is just a fraction of what’s possible with a decent upload speed when most people have it. Until then it will hold us back because much of the benefits need decent speeds in both directions. Fixing one and not the other just guarantees a bottleneck and restricts the possible use cases, both existing and yet to be invented.
Archie just pay £10 a month and have a server with Bytesized then you don’t need your PC On 24/7
That’s what I do.. got all the tools there too
@FullFibre
Indeed. I am moving soon and I have been offered the chance of 1Gbps both ways – so this will be good 🙂
BT should’ve been doing this from the get-go man, they let Virgin come and conquer the market (in terms of fibre and so on), way too late now, they’re playing huge massive catch up now.
By the way, I’m fine with Virgin, I know I know, people do not like virgin, but…for me they deliver for me (personally), Sky, BT, EE and co do not deliver at all and I used to be there customer way back. Until Sky and co can really compete with virgin then I’ll consider them again, until then bt and Openreach will continue to hold them back (monopoly on the network infrastructure) until Openreach really upgrades the infrastructure and make the ISPs compete properly, then Virgin will also compete as well, right now virgin is laughing all the way to the bank.
Agreed – I am with Virgin too – I have VM and FTTC and VM kicks ass for speed. I use the FTTC for a business line as it’s not right in my mind to use VM for that and the Zoom 3= bundle does not appeal to me right now – but in the future who knows.
Glad you people can get FTTP I’m still stuck on normal 4MB broadband and that’s FTTC this sucks when are people like me going to see any thing above 50 dam my phone has faster internet connection on 4G just a shame there is no network that offer unlimited data Sims 🙁
EE is now offering 500GB plans which is pretty expansive.
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/09/ee-uk-launch-500gb-data-allowance-on-4g-home-broadband-plans.html
Virgin offer unlimited data on a phone deal
VM do an unlimited sim for customers, so if you know someone maybe they can help?
Limited to 50mbps up and down (but I am sure you can live with that!) and truly unlimited for £25 a month. I am just waiting for my family plan with EE to end (£109 a month for 140GB shared) and then I will be switching us.
G.Fast cabinet installed in July…. Now October … still cannot order.
Ask openreach what’s the problem .. when can I order.. the representative didn’t even know what G Fast was.
A Gfast pod might be installed but there might be nothing inside it, they might have power supply issues or the fibre might not even be there!
you wont be able to order until it live and its a waste of time / effort until that checker is updated
also depends on how close you to the cab as it might live but as the cable runs your out of distance
I went with Cerberus for my FTTP, and I am well happy with the service so far.
Half the problem with picking a supplier was communication, their web sites are advertising megathis and ultrathat with free prepaid bankloan and free burger vouchers and the price will be this and then the price will be that… and if you can manage to understand all that and decide to order, you then have to ring their Bombay call centre and go through it all again verbally.
I have ordered and received a FTTP service with everything I wanted at a reasonable price and used nothing but the Internet to do it.
My emails are answered promptly and nothing seems too much trouble for the support staff. So again, I’m well happy.
I don’t get a free prepaid bankloan, this was knocked off the price beforehand, as were the free burgers for life and the uncertainty of the price going forward. It was just simple and easy, and I have no regrets.
You turned down free burgers for life! Are you mad?
(unless of course they were from McDonalds – yuk)