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Clarifying Virgin Media Policy on Exit Charges for Off Net Home Moves

Saturday, Apr 2nd, 2022 (12:01 am) - Score 8,360
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Some of Virgin Media’s (VMO2) UK broadband and TV customers have complained that the ISP, which recently scrapped exit fees for those that move into off-net areas (here), is now sending mixed messages by failing to clearly communicate the change and instead stating that Early Disconnection Fees (EDFs) “may” apply.

The change, which was introduced in mid-February 2022 (note: not everybody reads such announcements), was widely welcomed and has been viewed by many as an indication that the newly merged company (VMO2) was taking steps to improve its support and foster a much more consumer friendly image (not unlike the decision to continue offering free EU roaming on the O2 mobile platform). So far, so good.

Previously the operator had tended to hit off-net home movers (i.e. when you move house into an area where Virgin is not present) with Early Disconnection Fees (EDF), which are based off the remaining months of your existing contract term and can add up to hundreds of pounds in additional charges.

The only small catch is that those concerned would need to provide proof of their new address, albeit with a wide range of readily-available documents accepted (e.g. mortgage and rental agreements, utility bills, bank statements and driving licences) – this is necessary in order to prevent abuse (e.g. faking off-net house moves to avoid such charges).

Playing Spot the Policy Change

However, since then a number of Virgin Media’s customers, specifically those facing an off-net move, have told ISPreview.co.uk that they’ve found it difficult to confirm that the change actually exists. Instead, many of the relevant pages on Virgin Media’s website still give the impression that customers are likely to be charged for such a move, which is achieved by failing to mention relevant details and context to the contrary.

For example, at the time of writing, the EDF page still says this – “If you move to a property outside our network area during your minimum period, you may have to pay an Early Disconnection Fee for ending your contract early. So, before taking a new service, if you think that you may move to a property outside of the Virgin Media network area before the end of your minimum period, one of our 30 day rolling contracts may be more suitable for you.”

The above statement is technically correct, as those who fail to provide evidence that they’ve moved into an off-net area may still be charged EDFs, but the paragraph makes no mention of this key detail whatsoever and fails to clearly indicate that related exit fees have been largely scrapped- a vital piece of context.

The operator’s most recent Terms & Conditions for fixed home broadband packages are similarly uninformative: “If you are moving to a property outside of our network we will no longer be able to provide services to you. If this is during your minimum period it will mean that you will be asking to end your services early, so you may need to pay an early disconnection fee. Please visit the early disconnection fees area of the Virgin Media website by clicking here for further information.”

The ‘Moving Home‘ page is also devoid of any FAQs to cover the aforementioned situation when moving outside of Virgin’s network area. Suffice to say, customers could easily be forgiven for feeling a bit confused or thinking that related charges still apply, since that appears to be the impression that Virgin Media gives through its failure to clearly communicate the alternative.

What Does Virgin Media Say?

We raised this with Virgin Media, and a spokesperson informed us that they use the wording “early disconnection fees may apply” because that remains the case to reflect the fact that the customer must provide proof of the off-net move for the charge to be waived (you of course won’t get that crucial context from their website or T&Cs).

The operator added that it was “incumbent on the customer to provide evidence in a timely manner because the charge will be applied by default unless they do so” (another detail that should be put on their website or, at the very least, inside the T&Cs).

There are certain limited exceptions (e.g. moving abroad), but as a general rule, customers moving to an off-net address who provide proof of their move within 30 days of cancelling will not be charged an EDF,” added the operator. This is fine, but the primary complaint was that the operator is not making the policy or its implementation clear – via their website or terms – to customers who might be considering an off-net move. Customers shouldn’t have to contact VM directly in order to get such details.

Virgin said they weren’t trying to “hide” this from customers and added that those who speak (phone) their movers team will be advised about the process, as well as being sent a written communication to cover it in more detail.

However, the operator did say they’d look at the FAQs to see if “something” could be included in order to make everything clearer. It’s unclear how long that will take, but adding a few extra words of context should be extremely easy – a 5-minute job.

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28 Responses
  1. Avatar photo JP says:

    Glad they’ve updated this policy.

  2. Avatar photo Anon says:

    Dam! 2 weeks after they made me pay £270 too! 🙁

    1. Mark-Jackson Mark Jackson says:

      I assume from this that they either hadn’t made you aware of the policy change or, for some reason, you weren’t able to provide the necessary evidence of your home move in time?

    2. Avatar photo Tech3475 says:

      @Anon

      Have you tried contacting them to see if you can get it refunded?

    3. Avatar photo AQX says:

      @anon the change went into affect in February 17 so you shouldn’t have been charged unless you failed to provide the documents.

    4. Avatar photo CarlT says:

      ‘But when you are buying a house there isn’t much apart from receipts etc’

      Not sure what receipts would be useful here, but there’s the contract, confirmation from solicitor of completion, land registry, utilities will send snail mail, mortgage information, etc, etc.

      At least some of this should be available before the final bill is calculated.

  3. Avatar photo Optimist says:

    The customer service deficiencies of this company are clearly evident from the postings on their help forum.

    1. Avatar photo JP says:

      Maybe O2 can teach them a thing or two.

    2. Avatar photo Iain says:

      You ain’t kiddin. I put in a cancellation request on 25 January, when they announced their mid contract price rises.

      Instead of VM honouring my cancellation, they’re continuing to bill me. Thankfully, given eight weeks have passed, I have escalated this to the Ombudsman, who should shortly be putting an end to this nonsense.

    3. Avatar photo AQX says:

      @Iain You could just have called back up and had it backdated, instead you’re delaying it further by taking it to the Ombudsman who will tell you to take it to Virgin or get a deadlock letter.

    4. Avatar photo Iain says:

      @AQX: You can bring things to the Ombudsman if the provider confirms deadlock OR after eight weeks of contacting them. Otherwise companies would face no consequences for failing to respond!

      I’ve wasted enough time with Virgin Media trying to get this sorted, so I’m looking forward to the Ombudsman awarding compensation.

  4. Avatar photo Bent says:

    couldn’t careless about virgin media money grabbing business model .they rip you off and 02 crap anyway.

    1. Avatar photo CarlT says:

      If you couldn’t care less why do you take the time to post on every story about them? Seems the opposite of not caring.

      If you are who I think you are I wonder if they refused you your usual deep discounts?

    2. Avatar photo Bent says:

      I am no longer a customer of there’s as they ripped me off for past 12 months so I cancelled the contract last September and stick 2 fingers up to virgin Lutz Schueler CEO of virgin medias 02 and signed up with threes 4g home broadband paying 17 a month 24 months getting good speeds at the moment no 5g yet in my area but I have to be patient as i refuse to go to sky bt ee broadband they all crap I invested myself a 5g router from amazon paid £400 for a router from there and laugh at gullible bootlickers on here saying virgin media the best lmfao as if! I only come on here to troll if I see there’s a virgin media/mobile 02 as I despise money grabbers like virgin media 02 virgin mobile ee ect.

    3. Avatar photo AQX says:

      @bent – you realise full stops and commas exist, yes? You also realise you could just not reply here or to any article about VM and get on with your life, instead you proceed to allow Virgin to live entirely rent free in that head of yours.
      Looks like Virgin still get the last laugh when it comes to people like yourself, how sad.

    4. Avatar photo The Grauniad says:

      “rent free”

      ugh reddit phrasebook time. Can’t people do things other than copy teenage yank ‘speech’ ?

    5. Avatar photo CarlT says:

      Hope you feel better for that, Bent.

  5. Avatar photo Matt says:

    Of course, in chases where moving isn’t anticipated, sure but where the person choses to move knowing their contractual obligations and then kicks off, they should be held to term. After all, no VMO2s fault after all.

    1. Avatar photo Anon says:

      This comment section is always such a fascinating view into the British psyche. There’s no other country in the world where people will log on *after* a giant corporation makes a customer-friendly change, to complain that the corporation should not have budged.

  6. Avatar photo jason999 says:

    “There are certain limited exceptions (e.g. moving abroad), but as a general rule, customers moving to an off-net address who provide proof of their move within 30 days of cancelling will not be charged an EDF,”

    Why does the virgin website still say

    What if I’m moving abroad?
    If you’re moving abroad, you’ll need to cancel your Virgin Media service in the UK. You’ll be charged for the 30-day notice period, and you may also have to pay a cancellation fee if you’re still within your contracted period.

    As well as cancelling your services, we’ll also need to arrange what happens to your equipment when your account is closed. You’ll find out more once you’ve booked your move.

    1. Avatar photo AQX says:

      Because moving abroad vs moving to an off-net, one is sometimes uncontrollable but also a VM issue and the other is usually always a personal choice and not VMs fault.

  7. Avatar photo John says:

    The article is so true. It is the reason we left, during the price increase. There is no clarity about moving house to a non virginmedia area.
    As one person above mentioned I cancelled in February, giving 30 days notice. Come March no cancellation, it took another phone call and forcing the issue that they finally ended my contract. If I hadn’t phoned they would have just continued billing me, appalling service!

  8. Avatar photo Mark Tommis says:

    I was with virgin over 15 years, and was out of contract for 10 of those years. I moved out of the coverage area, they charged me £80 for early disconnection fees! No matter how many times I called them and said I was out of contract for at least 10 years, it resulted in the same response, that I would be charged.

    Next came the barrage of threats to be taken to court or charged if I did not return the modem.
    I arranged 3 separate occasions for their collection team to come pick it up, they did not attend on any of the 3 times, so I wasted 3 holidays from work.

    I ended up having to mail the modem to them via a returns package.

    Then emails and texts demanding proof of my new adress started arriving. They already had it from the telephone calls and email discussions about the collection team attending.
    Digital banks statements were apparently not good enough, so I had to visit the bank to get a paper statement.

    This was all in the past 2 weeks so nothing has changed, their promises are lies.

    When it works, virgin is a fantastic internet provider, but customer services is disgusting and as close to nazis as humanly possible.
    I regret ever choosing virgin media.

    1. Avatar photo Rob says:

      Not much has changed in 10 years then – exactly the same happened with me, from a cabled flat to a ‘non maintained’ street with wayleave problems and no cable. Multiple no collections of the box so no closure of the account and refunds. Several years later I’m back in a property which is service by virgin.. when we moved in I had a new phone line connected and and been a TalkTalk customer since.
      Virgin may offer 1GB service here but I’m with happy with my 70M FTTC for now.

  9. Avatar photo Mike says:

    So the lesson appears to be if you want to cancel, do it via recorded mail.

  10. Avatar photo Duncan McClymont says:

    It’s simple, they want to keep charging, then they provide the service at the new address

    That will stop it

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