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Virgin Media O2 UK Scraps Exit Charges for Off Net Home Movers

Wednesday, Feb 16th, 2022 (7:55 am) - Score 6,792
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Customers of gigabit-capable broadband ISP Virgin Media UK (VMO2) will be pleased to know that the operator has today finally moved to scrap one of their most irritating policies, which charged early exit fees when subscribers moved house into a location that was outside the operator’s existing network area (off-net).

The operator’s Fibre-to-the-Premises (FTTP) and Hybrid Fibre Coax (HFC) based fixed broadband and TV network is currently available to over 15.5 million premises (around 50% of the UK), albeit predominantly inside urban areas. Obviously, that can create a problem when customers need to move house into an area that Virgin Media cannot serve.

NOTE: Most ISPs will levy some form of Early Termination Charge (ETC) against those who exit their contracts early, but Ofcom requires that they don’t “disincentivise you from changing to a new provider” (i.e. such charges must be fair and not excessive).

Until now the operator has tended to hit such off-net home movers with Early Disconnection Fees (EDF), which are based off the remaining months of your existing contract term and can add up to hundreds of pounds in additional charges (e.g. if you take their 1Gbps broadband-only plan at £62 per month, then the EDF for a single month of that would be equivalent to £50.07).

The situation can be frustrating for customers too, since they may often desire to retain Virgin Media’s service, but end up with no choice if they need to move into an area where the operator simply isn’t present (half of the entire country).

All of this was raised back in 2018 after Ofcom found fault with the operator’s EDF / ETCs and hit them with a £7m fine for overcharging (here). At the time Virgin Media responded by making such charges much clearer to customers, as well as updating their training processes and promoting 30-day rolling contracts as an alternative option. But they did not scrap the EDFs for home movers, until now.

The operator today said that they would “now waive the charge for customers who are unable to take their services with them,” which marks a major shift in their approach.

Jeff Dodds, COO of VMO2, said:

“We’re committed to putting customers at the heart of what we do and regularly review our policies and processes to give our customers the best service at the best possible price. We know moving home can be a stressful time, so we’re giving our customers one less thing to worry about.

We’re also continuing to invest heavily in the UK to expand our footprint, meaning more of our customers will be able to take their services with them when they move home, enjoying speeds that are four times faster than national average.”

Virgin said the hugely welcome move could save customers “up to £240“, which is nothing to sniff about, particularly as it occurs during a time when the cost of moving has just hit a record high. Unless, of course, you were hit with this charge just before today’s announcement – that’s no doubt going to be annoying, but somebody somewhere will always get caught out like that.

The only catch is that customers will need to provide proof of their new address with a wide range of readily-available documents accepted, including mortgage and rental agreements, utility bills, bank statements and driving licenses. Otherwise, any old person could fake a house move in order to exit their contract early and penalty-free (we suspect some individuals may still try to abuse this).

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Mark-Jackson
By Mark Jackson
Mark is a professional technology writer, IT consultant and computer engineer from Dorset (England), he also founded ISPreview in 1999 and enjoys analysing the latest telecoms and broadband developments. Find me on X (Twitter), Mastodon, Facebook and .
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18 Responses
  1. Avatar photo Optimist says:

    “… any old person could fake a house move …”

    Be careful, Mark, you don’t want to be accused of ageism! LOL!

  2. Avatar photo Bent says:

    To little 2 late as I cancelled my broadband last September no regrets.

  3. Avatar photo 2BeVMOrNottoBT says:

    Is VM really as bad as what I read about? (Serious question) I ask as they just passed my home and as yet BTO are still an estimated 18mo behind VMs roll out for FTTP for my area/property.
    I hear their customer services are terrible and often overcharge/misscharge their customers. This is from mostly online forums, etc. Im more intrested in hearing about VMs actual network, customers experience with uptime, latency and actual real world throughput speeds, do they have an aggresdive FUP during specific times, etc.

    Anyway, Regarding this article, it has to be considered welcomed news, VM sound like they are trying to spin this story into “Doing their part to help during this cost of living crisis” when in actual fact Ofcom has already issued £7m fine and probably warned VM to shape up with regards to their EDF practice’s for customers moving to locations not served by or outside of VMs network.

    1. Avatar photo Iain says:

      Pros: The network download speeds on Virgin Media can be great. If you order 200 Mbps, then via Ethernet you will get (just over) 200 Mbps. (Their WiFi is crap: use their hub as a modem.) That’s my experience. Of course, maybe it’s luck of the draw whether they’re over contended in your area.

      Cons: I resent Virgin Media trying to raise prices during my fixed term, fixed price contract. Their customer service is indeed terrible (they haven’t responded to my complaint about the price rise in nearly three weeks). And the downtime is frustrating: it feels like there’s downtime (whether planned or unannounced) every couple months, sometimes for half an hour to several hours.

      So on balance I’d cautiously recommend them, unless you have Openreach FTTP or CityFibre in your area.

      Just make sure when you sign up you get cashback. Make sure you buy during one of their endless promotions – don’t pay a setup fee, and often it is cheaper for them to bundle a phone line you maybe don’t need. And phone up their retentions team, or switch provider, at the end of your fixed term contract, else the prices nearly double.

    2. Avatar photo Onephat says:

      It’s been fine for me. I’ve spent the last couple of years on the 650mbs package now on the 1gig and it’s been fine. There are plenty of VM haters on this forum, and it mostly stems from the fact VM hasn’t called their street. I’m sure half the VM comments made here are from people who have never used the service. If you get a deal from them it can be excellent value for money, once that deal expires though make sure you ring them as the price sky rockets. Customer service is average at best but no worse than those of other big companies.

    3. Avatar photo J says:

      I was with Virgin for years. Started as Blueyonder. Had no issues originally and once lockdown hit it completely tanked. Endless downtime that they refused to acknowledge. Couldn’t contact them. Managed to book an engineer that didn’t turn up and they denied this, even though I had the texts as proof. When I finally got an engineer out months later he saw downtime of over 75% but wouldn’t fix it. Just said it would be monitored. When I called to query this they acknowledged the downtimw but wouldn’t fix it or give me a credit. Also wouldn’t let me out of my contract early. Every complaint was closed because they couldn’t contact me but got through to me no problem when I cancelled early. I made it clear I was paying the early termination fee and would never go back so the next day he renewed my contract. Absolute cowboys. Ended up going to Ombudsman with a hefty payout. It was so bad I switched to 4G with 3 which is a lot more reliable, and that is saying something. Eventually went with 5G which was amazing but luckily I now have OR and have never had a drop out.

      I have no idea what it is like now but this happened over about 7-8 months and I would rather have no internet than go with Virgin again.

    4. Avatar photo John says:

      Most if not all ate true, if you have the hub3 it’s a nightmare, trying to set it up as modem mode, and using pfsense for routing… I tried to get to the bottom of it (do a search on their forum) first they denied there’s anything wrong, then after uploading all the screenshots from a WIRED connection they couldn’t do anything about it blaming intel puma chipset… I asked for hub4, and was told I need to get their 1g service.

      …and the latency and jitter, my God, it’s no good for realtime gaming and especially at peak times, service goes to near half speeds. Also just look at the modem status page, look at the 4 upload channels and errors in the log. Their engineers are morons and when I pointed it out, did something in the cabinet… by the way the hub2 which was netgear was very good back in 2008, we were with them since 2006 until 2021, now andrew&arnold are just perfect, I only heard of those guys from ispreview and did some background checks… and it’s just perfect! 0ms latency anytime peak or off peak… and 3ms loaded!

      I hope half of my street stay with virgin, wouldn’t want those lot clogging my line, besides they’re probably just watching netflix or some other streaming site.

      This is my honest experience of virgin. I’m in area code 21 south London… none of that nonsense fake review stuff.

      Left them as soon as full fibre was available.

    5. Avatar photo Steve Macleish says:

      What a putpouring of drivel, trying to sound intelligent, big fail.

    6. Avatar photo Joris Bohnson says:

      Their broadband is very good. Few outages and most will get faster speeds than they pay for (over Ethernet). Just use your own router.

      Downsides are their customer service and contracts are awful. Price hikes, live chat never works, etc.

  4. Avatar photo Mike80 says:

    Interesting timing for this announcement, coming on the day the RPI rate of inflation linked to O2 and Virgin Mobile’s annual price hike is announced. That’s 7.8% plus 3.9%…

    VMO2 gives with one hand and takes away with another…

  5. Avatar photo Matt says:

    Are the fttp rollout areas more robust and reliable than the older system or is it much the same?

  6. Avatar photo PaddyB says:

    This is welcome but I already left them because I knew they’d do this and we were thinking of moving. I’ve had pretty good experience with Virgin but their customer services are terrible/non existent. No web support/live chat/testing. I know they had issues when they were upgrading some of the docsis backbone and cmts and they are over subscribed but so are openreach dslams and pops.

  7. Avatar photo Umar says:

    Just switched to TalkTalk FTTP from VM. Their retentions team tried the same old spiel about being the fastest ISP. I said not anymore time to drop your prices, you have competition now! The agent was not happy!

  8. Avatar photo Johnson says:

    Amazed they were allowed to do this for so long, utter rip off.

    Back in 2014 I reduced my mums contract and ended up adding inclusive calls back on. That agent recontracted her but said nothing on the phone. Ended up challenging a manager to listen to the phone call, they did, came back and apologised and cancelled the contract.

  9. Avatar photo Gavin says:

    I got a call from Virgin Media after entering my details on there website. I was hopping they would offer me a good deal. But when they said about there early exit charges, I was not interested. Especially for a 18 month contract and my rental agreement is 6 months.

  10. Avatar photo Buckie says:

    Yey will just pretend to move house after offer periods over

  11. Avatar photo Greyscale says:

    Presumably this doesn’t apply to business customers?

  12. Avatar photo John Pauls says:

    Glad they have reviewed that policy. About time.
    I’m with Virgin and I don’t understand the hate for them. They are not perfect but nor are any of the others.
    It sounds like to me that some people bring their own trouble with them. I bet the complainer at the top has trouble with most aspects in their life.
    Just deal with the problem logically instead of blaming them. Leave, take them to small claims court, or the ombudsman as the person did but don’t complain when you know they are terrible.

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