The CEO of ISP and mobile giant Virgin Media and O2 (VMO2), Lutz Schüler, has today joined growing calls for the UK government to provide more direct support during the cost-of-living crisis by cutting the rate of Value Added Tax (VAT) on cheaper social tariffs for home broadband and mobile services from 20% to 5%.
At present, consumers who are eligible (i.e. those on benefits like Universal Credit) for cheaper ‘Social Tariffs‘ still have to pay 20% VAT, although such plans could naturally be made cheaper by dropping this to 5% and thus bringing it more into line with existing utility services like gas and electricity.
The calls for such a change are not new, with both the UK Internet Service Providers Association (ISPA) and consumer magazine Which? highlighting a similar message earlier this month (here). But so far, the government has yet to give a clear response, which may be partly because their key decision makers seem to have been distracted by the current leadership contest.
Lutz Schüler said:
“Until now, it’s not always been easy for us to check if a customer is in receipt of Universal Credit, with the process being mostly manual and heavy on administration. That changed last week when Government announced a new system which allows broadband providers to confirm customers’ eligibility quickly and easily. This was very welcome news and something we’ve long called for.
We’re committed to using this API as soon as possible, with work already underway to implement it, and we will also expand our eligibility criteria to include a wider range of benefits so even more people can access our social tariff. On top of this, to ensure customers know about the support on offer, we’ll soon start including information about Essential Broadband in the communications we send to customers every year related to their contract.
While these steps will help to improve the availability, awareness and affordability of essential connectivity, we can still go further. By cutting VAT on social tariffs to 5%, as Which? has been calling for, Government could put more money back into the pockets of those struggling most in a targeted way. We would pass on any social tariff VAT cut in full and urge the next PM to review this as a priority.
However, support can’t just be focused on social tariffs, and we’re committed to playing our part in helping all of our customers and the communities we serve. Right now, this matters more than ever.”
Admittedly, cutting VAT to 5% on social tariffs wouldn’t solve some of the biggest problems with these packages, such as around the general lack of consumer awareness that they even exist. But on that front, it’s good to see that VMO2 will now be promoting their own tariff in the communications they send to customers every year related to their contract.
However, the Government has so far been reluctant to provide any direct support (e.g. tax cuts or subsidy) to consumer telecoms services, and has instead preferred to pressure the industry into making various – and arguably somewhat feeble – voluntary commitments (here). On the other hand, there have recently been hints that the government may introduce a wide-scale VAT reduction, albeit not to the depths of 5%.
One of the problems with a wide-scale VAT reduction, aside from the huge and annoying admin it creates, is that not all providers and products will pass the change on to consumers. Lest we also forget that CPI inflation is currently running at 10.1%.
Can we not cut VAT all together for broadband?
Then the tax will have to be put elsewhere to make up the shortfall in tax revenue or the government prints more money increasing inflation.
Peter, didn’t you read Mikes reply?
5% VAT on broadband generally (like most other utilities e.g electric) and 0% on social tariffs would make more sense to me. BUT then you’ve got complexity and admin of two separate rates.. maybe easier to just up benefits a bit instead.
if you ‘up benefits a bit instead’ how do you encourage people to take jobs? Stratford-CV37 where I live has enough lazy good for nothing scroungers as it is. Even the Hotels don’t need staff
So a £15 social tariff (inc 20% VAT) becomes a £13.13 social tariff (inc 5% VAT). And that’s only if the providers pass it on in full, which I doubt.
I know “every little counts”, but this is really a big fuss over nothing. There are more effective ways to put £2 a month into people’s pockets, if that’s what the government wants to do.
This seems a bit like fiddling while Rome burns. Drop the VAT on *all* communication services (residential and business internet subscriptions, mobile tariffs) and get on top of the energy prices. A small VAT drop on a social tariff will get eaten up by inflation within a couple of days.
That’s rich from a company that now hides behind ofcom and doesn’t give compensation with outages which I have all the time with virgin and the worse customer service you can imagine. They will even lie just to get out of giving us customers any money.
How about the govt cuts VAT for EVERYTHING?
Why not also cut the income tax, capital gains…
A much more effective method instead of cutting VAT is 1. Ensure companies pay their fair share of tax instead of dodging it by using tax havens and 2. Introduce a energy company windfall tax and use the funds from that to help those most in need with their energy bills.
While cutting VAT on social tariffs may seem like the right thing to do, sadly where you save with one pocket, the Govt will take from the other.
How else do you plan to pay for the socialism the people vote for?
Exactly, and just keep borrowing or that magic money tree, give everyone a free trip to Mars… sounds like those Instagram uneducated lots resolve. It’s probably that way of thinking that privatised everything because no body wanted to increase general taxation to fund the trains, water, gas and electricity… but now the private companies are getting away with murder, and keeps increasing bills and taking money out as profits and the poor dopes can do nothing while paying directly to those private companies.
There’s even talk of nationalising rail and power and they never learned lessons talking of privatising NHS, the private companies are there only for profits, while if they just increased the tax and paid a few pounds more than they could have funded it not-for-profit. And invest in the system upgrading etc. Instead of just filling shareholders pockets.
It’s some mad temporary thinking while in the long term, everyone gets screwed and powerless… look at the water, they’re saying they want to filter toilet water back for you guys to drink!
All because they didn’t bother to reinvest into new reservoir to store water when it does rain.
It’s actually more akin to fascism, the government heavily regulates those markets (restricting competition) whilst allowing private companies to profit from them, and also take the blame for failures/high prices.
@guest 1) has nothing to do with what I said. Also “fair share” is vague, meaningless and subjective. 2) how about LESS taxes rather than more taxes?? You leftists cannot understand the simple fact that if you tax an entity then it’s always the consumer who ends up footing the bill. Landlords get taxed to oblivion yet people complain about rising rents
@Mike I escaped a socialist country so I defo do not want it
@John privatising the NHS sounds like a great idea. Atleast let me opt out of paying an insane amount of taxes for it. I just went there and got put on a queue for 4 months. The govt has went on the lunatic netzero path and that’s why energy prices are spiking, not because of “muh private energy companies”. Go lookup green taxes
How about those companies calling for a VAT cut cut their prices first and stop the CPI+3.9% yearly price increases.
How about the people stop voting for politicians that raise the costs of doing business?
Why don’t they just reduce prices, way to expensive especially if you’re already with them. Why aren’t deals available for new and excisting customers
Because the public decided to vote to make things more expensive.
VAT should be ZERO for all household bills: Gas, Electricity, Water, Phone Line, Broadband, TV License and Mobile
Wait, you pay for a TV Licence? Just ditch live TV and switch to catch-up instead!
Why should it be zero? You vote for socialism, you pay for it!
@Mike
we do pay for it.. the problem with so many privatised services is that we end up paying twice these days, many seem to ignore the huge subsidies many companies get to provide their services lm sure companies like BT get massive public subsides to provide their services.
@timeless
As the government runs out of other people’s money they will sell off stuff in order to raise money to buy votes with some other project next election.
Everything has a cost, make it free then where does the money come from to invest in upgrades etc? As someone once said “the problem with socialism is you run out of other people’s money”. Those who can pay won’t pay large taxes, they just leave so instead of getting something from them you get nothing.
That quote is from Thatcher, however unchecked capitalism is just as bad.. privatisation has been a complete an utter mess, the problem with socialism for capitalists is it requires them to actually pay their fair share whereas the unchecked capitalism we have now means record profits at the expanse of not only the customers but the tax payer as well so instead of the customer paying once they pay twice due to most privatized companies also getting hefty subsidies from the tax payer which is why many companies are making record profits while the customer sees no real improvements in services.
@timeless there is no such thing as “fair share”, you actually mean greater legalized theft
If you had any clue how taxes actually work then you would know that they factor in the final price of anything
You also have no clue what capitalism means either. Hint: govt subsidies do not have anything to do with capitalism, nor do taxes
@Mike
Every post you have made on this news sorry has been political, give us all a break
Taxes are 100% a political issue and they do not affect only the rich as many leftists falsely claim. If you pay rent then almost half of the money you pay goes directly to the govt
@John
And everyone seems to think that its the responsibility of others to pay more tax than them.
Agree. Flat 10% tax for everyone would be great
I was thinking a flat 25% income tax for everyone, none of that rubbish about the more you earning the higher percentage of it you have to pay in tax.
More and more and more free stuff.
Who pays? Because, amazingly, somebody has to in the end.
Have people not learned this from the fallout from lockdown?